[scrawnybob]

hi

I guess what I'm getting at is that none of us will ever KNOW something is 100% - I dont have any insider knowledge anymore than anyone else

BUT

I know that the players who found the issues at UB and Absolute have been routinely inputting and analysing 100's of 1000's of hands at all the sites - so they are watching out for us

Maybe something has changed, maybe not but as you said this "seems" to also be an "issue" at other sites ... which logic then suggests either all of them have a problem or the problem isnt a real one but perceived

When I say that I'm sitting on the fence thats not just because I dont feel that they have rigged RNG's but I personally havent got a definative way of proving it either way - but I do think that something would have come out from the guys who really have the hand history numbers to be able to spot an issue - the vast majority of individual players hand histories are no where near enough to be able to come up with a valid conclusion.

thats why in a way the whole Absolute / UB thing getting spotted by players / the geeks running big samples on lots of sites - is reasuring because they are looking on all sites

I know one of the big video presenters of poker news has said they have found issues - but to be honest their sample size is frankly laughable - and therefore inconclusive

I'm not defending the sites blindly but if logical maths says you need x10,000+ hands to even come out with some hint of a RNG issue then we cant prove somthing with 100 or a 1000 sample - it could just as easily be a genuine anomaly with the odds over too short a time

cheers scrawnybob