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Old 04-11-2008, 03:43 PM
TheSandmanRo TheSandmanRo is offline
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Well, that's no badbeat, mate. first of all, when you moved allin, you were WAY behind. Second of all, you ruled out the posibility of a 3 too easily. 3rd of all, you made one of the greatest possible mistakes in tournament poker: going allin against someone better than you (especially if you were P5 and so close to the bubble).

He couldn't have had aces, because of the reason you've just said, but he could have had 55, and that would have been a very usual call for a high stack. From your coordinates, he either was in the BB, or he had already limped in, so he got 3 to 1 from the pot, a very good payoff for a pair of 5's, which you didn't even bother considering.

But let's say you are right and that was a very loose call. There you are, on the flop, with 146k in front of you and 50k in the pot, called by someone completely out of position and someone with a better position, both dangerous. Why bet the pot and commit? The shortstack(the guy to your left) was somewhat committed and would have put his money in anyway The big stack checked to you (I guess). Had you bet about 16-20k (4-5 blinds), you gave he shortstack the chance of moving allin and leave you to be the last to act. So, the scenario goes like this: hs check, you bet 21k and remain with 125k, ss moves allin with 38k and it's the time for the hs to act. If he moves allin, you are nowhere near committed and fold to his check-raise from the big blind. If he folds, you call. The trouble comes if he softcalls, but I doubt that, as he wouldn't want to let you chase a possible flush with some AdKd.

As a conslusion to a time-wasting long post, that wasn't a badbeat, because you were behind with only about 10% chances of winning (even less if we consider the possibility of a K-3 turn-river). You played well preflop and he didn't? yes. You overplayed on the flop? yes again.

Last edited by TheSandmanRo; 04-11-2008 at 03:46 PM.
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