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Old 05-30-2008, 06:41 PM
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Default that short allin preflop or fold

hi

yep just to add - I got the impression that your were more of a lower end mid stack than a short stack

as a short stack your decisions are alot more clear and need to be alot more decicisive

in late postion short stacked with no apparent interest from the earlier players I would be planning to go all-in preflop with any pocket pair 88 up to JJ (I might get a bit fancier with QQ, KK or AA to ensure I got a match for all my money)

but with 66 I would be aiming just to steal the blinds with a clear cut all-in preflop no messing (or a fold would be my only other consideration)

if your down to 10x BB the blinds would be a min of 1.5 BB + any other flat calls - that would do me ... at the worst you give your image some credibility for future moves and you also cover the cost of getting round the blinds if your really struggling

if the BB or SB is stacked and / or likely to call your all-in then your probably not in bad shape (I'd be more comfortable with 88 or better)

but whatever you decide at a short stack stage the discision needs to be made pre-flop with no allowance for limping as this would just decimate your remaining stack

eg. you have 10x BB

to call an unrasied pot is going to cost you 1
to call and then have to call a 1 or 2x BB raise (from the blinds) would cost you 2 or 3

your then down to 7 or 8

you might then get stuck for half your stack on the flop and have to fold or call a 1 or 2 BB

leaving that hand your down to 5-8 BB if you fold round to the blinds your then stuck losing 1.5 BB whether you like it or not

which leaves 3.5 - 6.5 BB going into the next rotation

looking at from an all-in position ...

you have 10xBB

1.5 blinds + 2 BB from limpers (3.5 to pick up) BANG you go all-in with 66 in late postion / button

a) everyone folds - you now have 13.5 BB if you then have to fold through the blinds on the next rotation you have 12 BB (2 more than now) and you've potentially seen / going to see another 18 hands before you have to put up the blinds.

b) one player calls and you stand to double up and be in much better shape ... or out

I'm not saying you should have gone all-in absolutely ... but definately you only had two choices ... all-in preflop or fold, wait & hope for a better all-in situation

cheers scrawnybob
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