[quote=GypsyTea;39422]
Villian Outs = 4x8's 4xK's = 8 + 9 cards for the Flush= 17 outs 37 cards left > nearly half the remaining pack to hit.
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Yes 17 with draws, but you are counting the 8 and K
twice. You also forgot to discount the queen
as it gives you a dead hand bar a backdoor royal. My count 14
14 outs with 2 to come roughly 55-60% chance
14 outs with 1 to come roughly 28-30 % chance
I never play pot limit. Is it like limit where you mainly thinking one street ahead?
Make either the straight or the flush (!Q) and you're on the better side of 75-25%
I'll still go with the call,You can read the house and I wanna bust his trips and send him on tilt and get some more hero chips
