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Originally Posted by natbk2kicazz
I was in a tournament today and it was down the last 17 players. Well I only had 1800 (give or take) in chips. So needless to say my stack was getting low because the blinds were killing me at this point. I needed to make my move. I was sitting at the table watching about 5 people going all in with K 8, Q 9, and 7 8. Terrible hands to go all in with before the flop. I sat back and tried to wait until I got the right hand. I got dealt QJ off suit and called the 600 dollar blind.
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hi n,
sounds like the majority new what you new, that they/you needed to make a move. The blinds are unclear in your post but i get the sense you did have to make a move with QJ. And your move CALL. Not here, I think the others have it, you would have chased the 84 out and stole another round of blinds, not great but better than going out. The minute you enter this pot lightly if you hit your hand at all its probably all in by the end and are you ahead or will you be by the end. In this situation I don't debate. Its in or out and I decide that early.
The only other advice I could offer is spend some time evaluating particular hands against unknown random hands for this and other situations when you are put all in and have to make a decision on whether to CALL. Once you get a generral sense of the strength of the hand against random cards then begin to note what the players are playing and match your hand to a range of hands they might be playing and see how it might compare.
If you think the allin is a bad option, then dump it and sit till you get the AA and/or get blinded out. But this rarely comes good. That low down, and a double up rarely buys the time to see another biggie and you're allin on the blinds with 84os and well you know... it never works for you
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The flop came 10 J 8. One of the reckless people at the table raised 600, and knowing from watching I was sure that she didn't have much. The pot size was over the amout of chips I had so I called her all in. Of course like I thought she would, she called me and shows her 8 4 off suit. She has a pair of 8's on the board. I don't remember the turn, but it was no help to either of us. Then the river.... oh you gotta love and hate that river card... it was a 4 to give her 2 pair and take me out. First of all I don't know why you would raise on bottom pair and second of all I don't understand at all why someone would call a reraise with bottom pair and a very crappy kicker. That's not poker!! I mean why play the game, I just don't understand. I'm just getting so fed up with all the donkey plays and the chasers at the tables. It's getting rediculous and I'm frustrated 
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I think they did play the game and happened to have some luck."GG NH" Next please
and it always was/is/and always will be ridiculous.
