your situation/ their situation
hi
ok great to see your already getting some really constructive feedback on your hand ... thats great and always a help to have all ideas
there is alot to cover in your OP that many have covered already ... including pot odds which every player must must must get at that least the basic understanding and rough calculations of ... even if you cant do it accurately - the mechanics will save you alot of bad calls and also get you to understand why others do what they do
which brings me to my point (finally) - and why your and their decisions are NOT governed solely by odds and starting hands ...
your situation as I understand it 1800 chips with BB at 600 ... so your not short stacked your desperately short stacked
if you have to call the BB and the SB you have halved your chips to scrape another orbit of the table (at best you might double up to end up back at 1800) ... so you have to go ALL-IN with somthing approaching a hand before you are commited to the blinds
now your stack is so low that position at the table is almost irrelevant (in terms of forcing a fold to pick up the blinds as someone can easily cover you and look you up) - however position is still useful as the action before you will tell you if you have next to no chance or some chance ...
But the most important thing for you in this situation is that you only have 2 options ...
FOLD or ALL-IN ... calling the blind to see the flop commits you 600 and leaves you only 1200 so you cant fold anyway (mostly)
so you may as well get it all-in preflop and (with a reasonable but not great hand) hope to hell that no-one has high pairs etc and you just pick up the blinds (then to 2700 chips)
or you get a hand and you push all-in and hope that maybe a couple call your all-in and you win (3600 chips)
The crucuial thing is to get chips and quickly - with as little risk as possible, the blinds allone are massively valuable so just allin to get them
other players situation is most of them will have you more than covered and several of them are bigger stacks and they want to get players out - so they play loose and will call or go all-in with 2nd / 3rd tier hands ... knowing you (short stacks) need far more reason to call than they need to bet they are pricing you and other short players out of as many hands as possible, making you fold and picking up blinds along the way or going to a showdown and either winning & taking another player out (so nearer the money) or if they loose they are just "loaning" the short stacks some chips for them to get into trouble with (and get them back)
the logic and mindset of a short and big stack player should be totally different - the cards should play less of a part of the game - its about control and domination
hope thats a help
cheers scrawnybob
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