getting 'bitter'.. definitely not 'better'

[Poker Orifice]

When I first started playing a couple of these 4King tourneys to be honest, I saw it as a cheap way to toss a few bucks onto the bankroll due to generally very soft competition (there's some good players don't get me wrong,.. 'some'). Worked for a bit but bankroll is doin' okay these days online and not experiencing the kind of poker I prefer to play,.. where you're in against players who are actually good enough to laydown top pr. with a weak kicker, etc.
My experience (again) in today's tourney was more than enough to realize that I am getting 'bitter',.. definitely not 'better'.
With my work schedule, my time is more limited these days for playing poker online. I stayed away from the league games for a few weeks, then figured I'd try them again. It was a mistake but maybe not totally so,... I did learn that I don't want to play in them anymore.
I think for one to get 'better',. that one has to first realize that maybe they're not so good?? I don't know.. maybe that's not what this site is about? (getting 'better' I mean). Maybe I just suck at poker and am in denial about it, lol,.... doubt it though as I've got an MTT roi of +340% on Fulltilt.
If I feel I can't be a positive influence to the site then why bother to continue to participate? (not the first site I've tried and left,... only found one with advanced strategy blogs and strong players so far... still looking though.. still searching....).
Sorry to all my teamies on the WARRIORS,.. made a couple friends there. Just can't do it anymore,.... I find it really painful to play in the 4King tourneys,... I really believe that the majority of the play is atrocious at best. Maybe a good spot for newbies to learn the game (idk,.. I'm not a newbie so couldn't be sure).
Can't say I was too fond of the personal attacks I received while on this site -- being accused of stuff I had no part in,... and could feel the 'clique-i-ness' nature involved (maybe just tryin' to protect the site,... good on ya if so,.. but have noticed that when someone sucks out on me on the table, Mr. Kingjames always seems to have to congratulate them... what's up with that??.. tks for the welcoming you donk,.. I'll be sure to pass on high recommendations to others to join up too????).

As you can see,.. I am 'bitter',.. .something I need to work on getting 'better'. Don't think it could ever happen for me on this site (although maybe it'd be perfect for it??.. I seem to get regularly sucked out on here in the games,.. getting it in with the best and getting called by players lookin' for 2-outers and such... hmm.. maybe a perfect scenario to help me to learn how to not get 'bitter'??.. could be just what I need and I don't even know it???).

GL to all,.... hope your experience is much different from my own.

[jacks_off4me]

have a safe drive home sweetie bye bye

[NUCKING_FUTS_4]

What way is that to speak to anyone?

4kingpoker used to be such fun and rivalry was stronger too.

Don't dare and be a better player than Jacks. The majority are in for a rough ride.

[LombardiStix]

I seem to get regularly sucked out on here in the games,.. getting it in with the best and getting called by players lookin' for 2-outers and such...

If it is true that you "regularly" get sucked out on then you have had a run of bad luck. IF you are getting your money in with the best hand then you will in the long run win more than you lose. Be at peace, if you can't deal with bad luck you need to pick a new discipline. Sorry it is the truth. Because you are playing on a sight that offers freerolls and low $ buy-ins you will undoubtedly find a range of players.

thats all i got

[NUCKING_FUTS_4]

If it is true that you "regularly" get sucked out on then you have had a run of bad luck. IF you are getting your money in with the best hand then you will in the long run win more than you lose. Be at peace, if you can't deal with bad luck you need to pick a new discipline. Sorry it is the truth. Because you are playing on a sight that offers freerolls and low $ buy-ins you will undoubtedly find a range of players.

thats all i got

I think this response is a tad bland and automated, no offence LS

I've only played 4king games since the last series but have noticed a radical change in the general table type of the games played. This like any other factor will have its influence on the results and IMHO it has for many players.

Poker Orifice finds it extremely difficult in these games because of the type of player he is. Anyone that has played him or watched him knows he doesn't need to take up another discipline.

All i got is,

loose tables and multiway pots have a dramatic influence on a TAG's game and quite correctly Poker Orifice recognises this and is making the correct decision for himself.

Good luck to ya C,

[jeffsbabe]

So what you're saying is that when you first started playing 4king games you saw it as an easy way to make money. Now, it seems harder? Do I have this right? You took first place in 2 out of the last 10 Full Tilt/Poker Stars games. Are you supposed to win every one? Maybe others have gotten to know the way you play and have learned to win a few more pots against you. Maybe others have grown into their game and you have stayed the same?

There are some tough players at these games. There are also those players that, against the "odds", will gamble and sometimes win. Does that make them a bad player? I don't think so.

If I have misunderstood your post, I apologize. If I did understand what you were saying then I wish you well at another forum.

[NUCKING_FUTS_4]

So what you're saying is that when you first started playing 4king games you saw it as an easy way to make money. Now, it seems harder? Do I have this right? You took first place in 2 out of the last 10 Full Tilt/Poker Stars games. Are you supposed to win every one? Maybe others have gotten to know the way you play and have learned to win a few more pots against you. Maybe others have grown into their game and you have stayed the same?

There are some tough players at these games. There are also those players that, against the "odds", will gamble and sometimes win. Does that make them a bad player? I don't think so.

If I have misunderstood your post, I apologize. If I did understand what you were saying then I wish you well at another forum.

You can also sit tight in a game and play with the odds everytime and still never win. That would concern me more.



I think there are a number of factors here that have resulted in a decision being made. I think he has made the right decision for himself.

Are you supposed to be happy with plodding along never winning just playing the odds and saying well you can't beat the cards?

Growing into their game?

Some still haven't got over nappies and breast feeding

And what if a group of teamies or individuals take unjustified umbridge with you off the table and decide to take revenge on the table? Cards? That makes me laugh.

Poker? Not the type I play nor will.

[scrawnybob]

hi all & poker orifice

(BTW poker orifice I'll reply to your PM this morning also)

but Jacks

"have a safe drive home sweetie bye bye"

is hardly a positive or encouraging response to a member who has expressed a negative view of the forum - its IMHO justifying their perception that we're not a friendly forum ... and thats not good

while I might not agree that the players are terrible (certainly not in the buy-ins) and I think we have some good players - The orginal Post its hardly a post members should be be so dismissive of

all the others have posted on game specifics which is fine ... while everyone may disagree on the ins and outs of playing different players - thats about poker

but please lets not be so dismissive of people that have an issue (we should be trying to sort the issue for them) - poker orifice isnt some 10 junk post special moaning ... he's started out being a reasonably active member ... the last thing we should be doing is discouraging members like this

will PM you in a bit pokerorifice - hopefully while the games (particularly the freerolls) might not suit you ... on the forum posting front ... we definately need more indepth discussion of poker strategy and that I feel would be something you could bring (with others) to the forum

BTW I think you were joint 1st in the FT v PS league so I guess your winning out most of the time

the trouble with forums is that if everyone looks to everyone else to start discussions that they woudl be interested in ... it doesnt happen ... thats the same with all forums

so hopefully you'll want to stick with us forum wise and feel free to post up things more on a level that you would like to see discussed ... theyre are definately members here of sufficent ability to have a good discussion on poker

yes forums will have beginners, intermediates and advanced - but there's no reason why everyone can't co-exisit in the same forum

if threads become over run with "me too" posts then all members need to do is "report the thread" (red triangle top right of posts) and I will tidy them up and get them back on topic

hope thats a help and I hope you feel less bitter and more better (bad grammar or what) about staying in 4kingpoker

cheers scrawnybob

[mafalda34]

come on man, what do u want ?? this forum its just great and if u dont want to be here just leave. i dont see the point on writing a huge post saying goodbye, should i cry because u are leaving ??? We are here to learn and have fun, so if u have nothing else to learn or u are not having fun go find another forums its pretty simple.

[jacks_off4me]

no one deserves your insults poker orifice, not me, not kingjames and not the whole forum.


correct me if i'm wrong but you were geeting feedbacks (at least from me) when you were high up.

the forum has'nt changed. the ones who have ability to change it are the members- the people.

futs you really don't know to lose huh?