Fixing the Team Play Errors

[scrawnybob]

hi

the team play trophy (at Carbon) has currently been scheduled at a US friendly time purely to get it going - there is the option as was always the plan to try and put them at a middle time for all on the weekend - possibly moving the FTPvPS league (which is at both a US and UK friendly times)

we will be adjusting the times of Carbon games & the FTPvPS leagues to get more of them at times so US and UK players can have an equal crack at the games + there is a whole league aimed at UK / Europe players

as for "making cash out of us" as you put it

I can assure you that we make NOTHING in the way of commsions out of the vast majority of forum members ...

most forum members have signed up to sites already either direct or via other sites before even joining the forum ... joining in most cases to play freerolls (and for a smaller number buy-ins) at whichever site members already play at by seeing the games on in the lobby ... in that sense ...

most members have the opportunity to MAKE money out of the forum ... NOT the other way round

those members that subsequently signup for other sites (via our links) AND play for real money MAY make us a commission ... thanks to them for supporting the forum from a financial POV as well as from a posting and activity POV ;-)

but I can guarantee that if the forum part of the site were to be run on a purely financial basis - I wouldnt be running tournaments at PokerStars, FullTilt etc etc as in terms of a balance sheet on forum revenue v forum tournament costs ... the forum gets more in tournaments than 4kingpoker would "have made cash out the forum"

so the forum side of the site is rather more a charity ... in both time and cost ... supported by the content & review side of the site & visitors which covers the forum costs

so a big thankyou to the members who have and do signup to sites via us - as they contribute to the funding tournaments for the benefit of the rest of the forum who on a financial basis dont contribute ...

thats not to say posting and being active isnt of value ... it most definately is
and for that I and everyone in the forum are undoubtedly grateful

but if members havent signed up via our links and dont play real money ... then any tournaments we run ... are a bonus not a right

the poker rooms & content sites like 4kingpoker dont "make money out of players" anyway ... the poker rooms charge a fee for providing a service (like any business) and the content sites get commission from the poker rooms revenue ... not directly the players

In reality - it's members & the far bigger number of our visitors who signup via our reviews (and most likely dont join the forum) who the forum should thank for covering the costs of our freerolls & buy-ins at sites the vast majority already play at

cheers admin

[jacks_off4me]

... BTW big silence will count as agreeing ;-) then lets go for it ... and I will post up the above as "new season II team play rules"

cheers scrawnybob

off course boss.

everything's looks fine to me for now.

[snowfish]

Hi bob thanks for what you offer to us foru m members. Unfortunately the tone of the emails latley changed to beeing a bit aggressive... I do not understand this, as you do a lot for us and it is free for anyone of us to participate and when playing good, even make some profit.

So members, please get back on the floor and start once again appreciating what is done for us by scrawnybob !!!

Concerning the FTPvPS , I think it is a good idea to have one game at European and one at US time and even changing the rooms every week between the times.

these are just my 2 cents.
cheers snowfish

[scrawnybob]

hi snowfish

glad you liked the alternating venue / times in the FTvPS league ... this is something I will setup this way again

provisionally I will probably shift the times a bit further apart - still on Sundays for the FTvPS league

so that we can comfortably fit in the Carbon Team Play Trophy II into the middle on Sunday

this way the team only games should be good for everyone US and European

I really need to see some of the season II teams getting setup (even if the members arent in there straight away) - as its important we can show Carbon that the new series will work well in order for us to be able to sort out tournaments for the forum etc

I'm hoping that the changes will be positive (I think they should solve many of the teething problems) and lead us to a stronger team play angle ... so lets start seeing those season II teams (even if they are works in progress - it would help just to see as many teams setup asap)

cheers scrawnybob

[snowfish]

so that we can comfortably fit in the Carbon Team Play Trophy II into the middle on Sunday

this way the team only games should be good for everyone US and European

Hi bob

I think this is a great idea, as the carbon time on wednsday was hard to fit for many of us.
Therefore I could only participate in the FTPvsPS games for the team points...

So I'm looking forward to the new team season

cheers snowfish