Bad beat . Can I learn from it

[Alnoble]

I'm BB

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to alnoble [9c 9h]
artem7: folds
eetbiltong: folds
ftanner: folds
Bodom Alfa: folds
platanitsis: folds
BKMON05: raises 300 to 600
alnoble: calls 300

Got to at least call with a reasonable pair. Would a re raise have been better.

*** FLOP *** [Jc Js Jh]
BKMON05: bets 300
alnoble: raises 3211 to 3511 and is all-in
BKMON05: calls 3211

Why all in. I put him on Ax or 2 high cards not a pair or the Jack, 300 felt like a feeler bet. Had he bet more would have considered a call or if he'd checked Iwould haved raised 3/4 x BB raise. I've been playing tight so he should give me credit of at least a pair don't want to give him a chance of getting a bigger pair. Suprised when he calls me with A6 he must have seen my all in as a bluff or he is a donk. Don't want to see an ace on the turn or the river.

*** TURN *** [Jc Js Jh] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [Jc Js Jh 6s] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BKMON05: shows [Ac 6h] (four of a kind, Jacks)
alnoble: shows [9c 9h] (four of a kind, Jacks - lower kicker)
BKMON05 collected 8502 from pot

Rivered didn't see it at first he has the better kicker.That's poker but it still hurts. Don't think I've ever seen four of a kind on the board. Often 3 on board with someone holding the 4th in their hole cards. 20th out of 90 8 off the money. I'll give it a couple of hours before I play again just needed to vent.

Lesson learnt :- All in is not a good move unless you do it to put someone else all in not you or you have the nuts. There is always time to finish higher if you have chips. Once you are out you loose.

Al

[LombardiStix]

Eh. You look at your situation an the only adjustment which may have prevented this would be to re-raise preflop. Since you put him on Ax anyway it may have been a good move. I think post-flop your move was reasonable. Something to think about though: Many/most people will say yeah there was nothing wrong with my move, I got my cards in with the best hand, nothing I can do better than that. WRONG. You can get your chips in with advantage and still be putting yourself at risk unecessarily. I think that may be what happened here and although you were ahead at the time of your push... you could have done it more safely later in the hand when you had seen no A's come out and no quads come out. I'm not saying you're wrong... just something to think about.


Stix

[pirates831]

You got him to call a 3200 raise on the flop with Ace high. He had 4 outs. He made a terrible call.

Can you learn from it? Yeah, learn that poker isn't fair. That you can play a hand right and still lose. If you're like me and have trouble accepting that, you'll probably need some kind of medication - ulcer, high blood pressure - to get through life if you continue to play.

[3eMa51]

Full Tilt Poker Game: Satellite to the Daily Dollar Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 2: aphraelua (2,175)
Seat 3: BlondeBombastic (975)
Seat 4: Imakefishsticks (1,850)
Seat 5: HE (2,100)
Seat 6: Buats (1,625)
Seat 7: treeskidoos (700)
Seat 8: janogranate (1,245)
Seat 9: IIMAJJERK (2,830)
aphraelua posts the small blind of 50
BlondeBombastic posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HE [Kd Qs]
Imakefishsticks folds
HE calls 100
Buats folds
treeskidoos folds
janogranate folds
IIMAJJERK raises to 450
aphraelua folds
BlondeBombastic has 15 seconds left to act
BlondeBombastic folds
HE calls 350
*** FLOP *** [4d 7d 8d]
HE checks
IIMAJJERK bets 2,380, and is all in
HE calls 1,650, and is all in
IIMAJJERK shows [5h Ac]
HE shows [Kd Qs]
Uncalled bet of 730 returned to IIMAJJERK
*** TURN *** [4d 7d 8d] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [4d 7d 8d Qh] [6s]
IIMAJJERK shows a straight, Eight high
HE shows a pair of Queens
IIMAJJERK wins the pot (4,350) with a straight, Eight high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,350 | Rake 0
Board: [4d 7d 8d Qh 6s]
Seat 5: HE showed [Kd Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 9: IIMAJJERK (button) showed [5h Ac] and won (4,350) with a straight, Eight high

Can I learn from it?

[pirates831]

where should i start on this hand?

1) don't limp UTG unless you are planning to reraise.
2) don't call a raise OOP.
3) don't call off your stack on a draw that might not even be good.

i'd have folded the flop to his all-in most times. not every time, but most times. you still had 15BB.

[3eMa51]

Turn: Q:heart: (5088, 2 players)
88.60%
11.40%


On turn I had an advantage here is so has solved. Thank you for help.

[pirates831]

Turn: Q:heart: (5088, 2 players)
88.60%
11.40%


On turn I had an advantage here is so has solved. Thank you for help.

so, because you caught a good card on the turn, it makes it the right call? don't be so results oriented.

[3eMa51]

Yes, of course, after this hand I began to play more carefully and try not to take quick decisions. Thanks