I love losing like this

[peaches]

[quote=scrawnybob;69184]hi

I have to say I feel sorry for the guy with 99

he is on the button AND he has the stongest hand of you all

It he that should be moaning after all he got his money in good and made a preflop raise IN position which was re-raised out of position thus making IMHO ANY pocket pair above 88 a valid call

AK is missplayed / overplayed IMHO far too much - most of the time its really at best a marginal favourite of a coin flip - ie. much nearer 55/45 than people care to admit

there is no way I'd be feeling comfortable going into a late position raised hand with AK in early position ... IMHO the correct play would have been to call the button raise and then see the flop

AK HAS to improve every single time to actually have genuine value - so when the flop comes down with an ace or a king - you can genuinely raise

bluffing etc juts doesnt come into it preflop IMHO going all-in with AK preflop is just a plain gamble

just my 2p

A big part of the value you have with AK when shoving with it is, you will often have fold equity and will take the pot down right then & there. If by chance you do get called, you are in great shape vs. most hands aside from AA, KK. I believe this is the added benefit of getting it in with AK. Also, there's alot of dead money in the pot so even if you are 45/55 you're getting your money in good with AK.

I was in a tournament tonight and there were 4 players left (of 15, top 3 got paid). One stack was really short. Utg shoved ALLIN and BB another medium-sized stack, instacalls with AK. This I think is a bad way to play AK (he was playing for stacks when one stack was super short and risking his entire tourney eq. on AK). Blinds weren't even that high, if they were then I could maybe see the snapcall but alot of players obviously don't consider stuff like that.

I think flat-calling with AK is good alot of the time but I also believe there's alot of things to consider about the specific hand. ie. sometimes it's better to 3bet the raiser with it, other times I believe a shove is clearly the correct play, & some other times a flat call. My feeling is that too many players just flatcall with it, especially once the blinds have increased to the point where making the call is ~20%+ of your stack.

[Poker Orifice]

Poker After Dark (repeat) with Phil Gordon, Phil Helmuth, Gabe Kaplan, Todd Brunson, David Grey, & Corey No-name.

Brunson wakes up with JJ, Gordon has AK, Kaplan with QQ...

Brunson opens, Phil Gordon comes in wth a raise with AK, Kaplan re-raises, come to Brunson who mucks his J-J, Phil Gordon then fires it ALLIN... Kaplan is now "faced with a decision"... the 5-bet shove looking very powerful and leaving him to believe he is up against exactly AA, KK, or AK. The result.... Kaplan has to muck and Gordon takes down a huge pot..... he later takes down the tourney for a 1st place win.

Ths I believe is an example of when you would want to be shipping it in with AK. If Gordon had merely called the 4-bet raise by Kaplan, & then wiffed the flop he'd be left in a bad spot and the he would be "faced with making a decision"... a hand to potentially powerful to muck... but with no choice but to muck if he didn't hit the flop, resulting in a big loss of chips from his stack. The AK is also a hand that wants to see all 5 cards hit the board.
Of course it always depends on the particular situation, ie. stack sizes in relation to blinds, who the villain(s) is/are, your own table image, payout structure, blind levels, etc. etc.

[peaches]

i like ur ponts orifice lol imagine that hehehehe

[Poker Orifice]

Originally Posted by peaches

i like ur ponts orifice lol imagine that hehehehe

hmm.... yes..'imagine that'

btw...there's like a HUGE poker book collection (collecting dust) sitting over there on the desk beside the TV. I think a few of them might have your name on them