Damm River !!

[peaches]

Originally Posted by snowfish

As you play other players, It would be interesting aswell how you thought they where playing, before you decide to go all-in.

When you look at the cards, there was a possible straight draw and aswell a possible flush draw.

I would decide my action depending on my judgement of the other three players, how willing they are to call with a draw as you put up the odds for them.

just my 2cts
cheers snowfish

Umm, not sure what you're getting at here? Are you saying that if I figure my opponents are willing to call off stacks on a draw in this spot then you're not going to get your chips in here? If so I really beg to differ. If my opponents choose to call off as a dog in this spot... great!!! I'm never going to consider playing this hand passively, for fear of a draw getting there, instead I'm going to charge them the max for it, by shoving it allin!!! I'm also drawing 4-outs to a boat.
Anytime I can get my money in good.... it's going in!

[peaches]

Originally Posted by snowfish

Absolutely every one know that and feels the same. But I think it helps a lot and normaly you feel much better when occasionally you see the river as others are still in the pot and see what you would have run up against...

But still it hurts and is hard to lay down

cheers snowfish

Okay.. asking again here. Are you suggesting playing this hand passively to the river, waiting to see if any draws get there prior to getting chips in? How are you supposed to get them to pay you off? This is such an easy two-fisted pump shove it's not even funny.

[offshoregamstr]

I play on Bodog a lot and I continuely get donks calling my high raises or all in with nothing and then end up catching flushes or small straights on the river. Its crazy that they would risk so much on the flop with nothing hopping to catch something on the turn and river.

[tmoney3581]

I swear I lose on the river more than anyone. I catch bad beat after bad beat anymore. Its kinda discouraging I swear all these poker sites are out to get me but I still love to play the game. Its so bad now I kinda expect to lose on the river scared to go all in IDK what to do

[N0GutsN0Gl0ry]

yea very ul...happend most of time

[Alnoble]

We all lose on the river and remember it. But do you remember how many times the river has saved you.

I've often thanked the river when I've seen my hand first beaten on the flop to recover with the river.

Those that call you down with any cards don't usually last to the money so watch out for them early on and play tight and you won't get so many river beats.

[Alnoble]

Well there was a river beat. First hand on the bodog 4king freeroll


Table Name 4kingpoker Warmup FREEROLL
Structure NL

Hand Actions
Player Action Action Data Timestamp

1Logan Ante/Small blind $ 10.00 01:05:03
alnoble Big blind/Bring in $ 20.00 01:05:03

alnoble Card dealt to a spot K A 01:05:03
milkman5029 Card dealt to a spot 10 J 01:05:03

milkman5029 Call $ 20.00 01:05:05
alnoble Raise $ 40.00 01:06:45
milkman5029 Call $ 40.00 01:06:47
PedroMX Call $ 40.00 01:06:49
Betting round completed Last active pot = $190.00 01:06:49

Card dealt to table 6 K A 01:06:49
alnoble Bet $ 100.00 01:07:02
milkman5029 Raise $ 290.00 01:07:05
PedroMX Fold $ 0.00 01:07:06
alnoble Call $ 190.00 01:07:10
Betting round completed Last active pot = $770.00 01:07:10

Card dealt to table 8 01:07:10
alnoble Bet $ 240.00 01:07:21
milkman5029 All-in $ 1,150.00 01:07:25
alnoble All-in $ 910.00 01:07:27
Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00

Card dealt to table Q 01:07:29
Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00

alnoble Showdown Show card: Two Pair
A A K K Q 01:07:31
milkman5029 Showdown Show card: Straight
A K Q J 10 01:07:31

Intresting all in with a gut shot. Expected to see another AK or AQ , couldn't see any better hand after the turn only drawing hands

Well I need to go to bed anyway .

Al

[sos_egg_n]

Well i read all that so will add comment

Altho sadly its a repitition of peaches.....in regards to snowfish i am intrigued what would u do in this spot???

If u have decided this player is loose and u play passive he will probably bet neway worse so i would imagine he is drawing to 1 hand either flush or str8 if he smells weakness he would push u off whichever scare card came. to which i assume from ur comment u would let ur hand go.



As were all having a go my bad beat story.........i hold qq

flop 2d qh 6s

opponents hole cards (allin on flop)

JD JS


Turn card

JH

River card

JC