Damm River !!

Alnoble · #1 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 08:23 PM

Well into this tournement playing tight ans slightly under average chips. Not had many cards so when KJo in SB worth a limp. Hit two pair on flop.

Table '194558962 10' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: hdan450 (1748 in chips)
Seat 2: KiltedD (1379 in chips)
Seat 4: golfo13 (5084 in chips)
Seat 5: chelsearule5 (10723 in chips)
Seat 6: gucci_gal (3567 in chips)
Seat 7: dryicejar (6504 in chips)
Seat 8: alnoble (3185 in chips)
Seat 9: tinny247 (11602 in chips)
hdan450: posts the ante 25
KiltedD: posts the ante 25
golfo13: posts the ante 25
chelsearule5: posts the ante 25
gucci_gal: posts the ante 25
dryicejar: posts the ante 25
alnoble: posts the ante 25
tinny247: posts the ante 25
alnoble: posts small blind 125
tinny247: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to alnoble [Jh Kc]
hdan450: folds
KiltedD: folds
golfo13: folds
chelsearule5: folds
gucci_gal: folds
dryicejar: calls 250
alnoble: calls 125
tinny247: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d Jd Ks]
alnoble: checks
tinny247: bets 500
dryicejar: calls 500
alnoble: raises 2410 to 2910 and is all-in
tinny247: calls 2410
dryicejar: folds
*** TURN *** [8d Jd Ks] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [8d Jd Ks 6s] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
alnoble: shows [Jh Kc] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
tinny247: shows [Qd 9c] (a straight, Nine to King)
tinny247 collected 7270 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7270 | Rake 0
Board [8d Jd Ks 6s Ts]
Seat 1: hdan450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: KiltedD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: golfo13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: chelsearule5 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: gucci_gal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dryicejar (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: alnoble (small blind) showed [Jh Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 9: tinny247 (big blind) showed [Qd 9c] and won (7270) with a straight, Nine to King

I think All in wasn't a bad move (incidently first time I'd gone Allin in this tournement and we had be playing 1 hour 40 minutes)

But calling with a gut shot draw to a tight player is definitly left field.

Al

OmahaOne · #2 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 10:21 PM

Thanks Full Tilt for giving me pocket Kings twice and then letting them get beat in today;s 4Kingpoker tourney. First againist pocket q's went a queen came on the flop and then againist AK with an ace on the river....

OmahaOne · #3 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alnoble

Well into this tournement playing tight ans slightly under average chips. Not had many cards so when KJo in SB worth a limp. Hit two pair on flop.

Table '194558962 10' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: hdan450 (1748 in chips)
Seat 2: KiltedD (1379 in chips)
Seat 4: golfo13 (5084 in chips)
Seat 5: chelsearule5 (10723 in chips)
Seat 6: gucci_gal (3567 in chips)
Seat 7: dryicejar (6504 in chips)
Seat 8: alnoble (3185 in chips)
Seat 9: tinny247 (11602 in chips)
hdan450: posts the ante 25
KiltedD: posts the ante 25
golfo13: posts the ante 25
chelsearule5: posts the ante 25
gucci_gal: posts the ante 25
dryicejar: posts the ante 25
alnoble: posts the ante 25
tinny247: posts the ante 25
alnoble: posts small blind 125
tinny247: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to alnoble [Jh Kc]
hdan450: folds
KiltedD: folds
golfo13: folds
chelsearule5: folds
gucci_gal: folds
dryicejar: calls 250
alnoble: calls 125
tinny247: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d Jd Ks]
alnoble: checks
tinny247: bets 500
dryicejar: calls 500
alnoble: raises 2410 to 2910 and is all-in
tinny247: calls 2410
dryicejar: folds
*** TURN *** [8d Jd Ks] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [8d Jd Ks 6s] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
alnoble: shows [Jh Kc] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
tinny247: shows [Qd 9c] (a straight, Nine to King)
tinny247 collected 7270 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7270 | Rake 0
Board [8d Jd Ks 6s Ts]
Seat 1: hdan450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: KiltedD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: golfo13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: chelsearule5 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: gucci_gal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dryicejar (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: alnoble (small blind) showed [Jh Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 9: tinny247 (big blind) showed [Qd 9c] and won (7270) with a straight, Nine to King

I think All in wasn't a bad move (incidently first time I'd gone Allin in this tournement and we had be playing 1 hour 40 minutes)

But calling with a gut shot draw to a tight player is definitly left field.

Al

I doubt the caller even knew how tight you had been playing and just went in on dumb luck...

rgchan · #4 (**permalink**) 10-26-2009, 05:19 PM

Sick. That was just a ridiculous call against your K-J. Only possible out looks like the Gut shot str8 and to call so many chips. I hope it was a low buy-in or a free roll.
RG

snowfish · #5 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 03:21 AM

As you play other players, It would be interesting aswell how you thought they where playing, before you decide to go all-in.

When you look at the cards, there was a possible straight draw and aswell a possible flush draw.

I would decide my action depending on my judgement of the other three players, how willing they are to call with a draw as you put up the odds for them.

just my 2cts
cheers snowfish

Alnoble · #6 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 08:15 AM

Good point Snowfish.

When I think back I'd recently moved to that table and looking at my hand history I'd only been delt 7 hands at that table. So didn't have a a lot to go on. Although his chip stack was well above average, probally a clue that he was getting cards.

That is one of the problems with MTT you do get moved a lot.

It hard to fold a good hand when you haven't been getting any cards.

Al

snowfish · #7 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alnoble

It hard to fold a good hand when you haven't been getting any cards.
Al

Absolutely every one know that and feels the same. But I think it helps a lot and normaly you feel much better when occasionally you see the river as others are still in the pot and see what you would have run up against...

But still it hurts and is hard to lay down

cheers snowfish

OmahaOne · #8 (**permalink**) 11-07-2009, 04:19 AM

Tonight I was playing in the Bodog BPO IV qualifier and at the final table with 8 players left found myself calling a bet of 4 times the BB with pocket nines. The flop comes 2, 2, 9 giving me a full house. I checked, player 2 bet half the pot and I raised "All In" which was a little over half the pot and almost all player's 2 chips. Player 2 calls and shows pocket Jacks. Queen on the turn and Jack on the river, giving player 2 a better full house and me KO'd in 8th place. Bad Beat are just Unlucky?

GOIVIT · #9 (**permalink**) 11-12-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmahaOne

Tonight I was playing in the Bodog BPO IV qualifier and at the final table with 8 players left found myself calling a bet of 4 times the BB with pocket nines. The flop comes 2, 2, 9 giving me a full house. I checked, player 2 bet half the pot and I raised "All In" which was a little over half the pot and almost all player's 2 chips. Player 2 calls and shows pocket Jacks. Queen on the turn and Jack on the river, giving player 2 a better full house and me KO'd in 8th place. Bad Beat are just Unlucky?

I would say just lucky. He did have the board covered if you did not have a 2, but even so at the final table it is a strange all in call. You will beat him next time.

peaches · #10 (**permalink**) 11-16-2009, 05:56 AM

TERRIBLE BEAT!!! There's nothing that can be said in defense of this guy's play here.

Object here was obviously to do whatever you could do to get all of the money in on the flop here... and by check-shoving you were able to accomplish this task.

Only comment I could say to the contrary is.... on a board as scarey as that, I'd be very hesitant to just not lead out big on the flop (in hopes of villain thinking that it's a donkbet on a draw). I would hate to give a draw a free card here. The play is obviously table dependent.