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    Default Looking Good... umm. then not, lol

    I must admit, I hate losing 80/20's when the chips get allin preflop in MTT's. Worst is when you're making a deep run of it, you're approaching the bubble and then POOF... or when you're actually deep in the money (when does that happen? lol).. and again.. you get it in great and lose to the miracle.

    Last week & had a bit of a soul crusher on an account where my bankroll is quite low right now. I had accumulated 10 T tickets ($26 & $75) from an initial investment of 12 Step1 buyins & ~10 Step 0's, for a total of ~$50. I came out far ahead and was looking forward to taking some shots at the $26donkaments (have a couple ok scores in them b4), hoping for a decent score obviously, but would be okay if I just came out ahead in the whole thing (the steps took ALOT of time & played ALOT of games trying to obtain those tickets). In all of the tourneys I went out in Top20% and got it in as a fav. in all but one of them (one I went out earlier, on my own doing, coolered getting JJ in vs QQ.. not really that bad but was an error on my part at the time).
    My last shot at it... closing in on bubble (I think we're close?.. not sure how close though & don't bother to look).... EP shoves ~18bb's.. I wake up with KK in BB (or SB?).. snapcall.. he turns a T.. and I'm crushed (still had a few chips, ~4bb's.. but went out shortly after.. not realizing that I was about to go out in 190th when top 189 pd.,.. sigh.. I could've used a min. cash there of $43 at the time).
    Today I take a shot at a few MTT's... Stars & Fulltilt. Tables were super fishy & it's getting me a bit tilted but not enough to alter my play much if at all. I'm taking ALOT of notes cuz there's alot of really f'd up play.. something I'm hoping to take advantage of if given the oppurtunity (COME ON OPPURTUNITY.. PLEASE PRESENT YOURSELF!!!.. LOL).
    Okay.. here it is... I wake up with KK in MP.. UTG1 limps (kind of a tight player but has called off too much with TPGK type hands)... then the one I'm REALLY hoping to get involved is next to act... (Hmm.. how much will I raise if they limp along too?... maybe 5x?.. maybe 4x?... I don't want to lose them but I do definitely want to try to get as much $'s into the pot as poss. here).
    What? ... They've gone & shoved ALLIN for 43bb's in early-mid-levels (well.. kinda early levels still 50/100.. but in my notes I refer to this as early-mid. as it helps to distinguish how they play at particular stages of tourney... play at 15/30 is generally ALOT different than 50/100). 4,300 into the middle... what could be better?
    I snap call with my KK in MP.. and the rest of the table folds...
    Here comes the flop.... 2-8-T.. so far so good!!.. and the turn an Ace... Yippee!!.. I'm now a HUGE favourite to win... they're drawing to 2outs... 95% favourite here now!!
    And the river.... a '6'.. BOOM.... just like that & I'm outta there, lol.
    Part that sucks for me is... you take your time, being super observant, deciphering how you will play vs. each opponent when or if given the chance... your spot arrives (a super easy one obviously... not like any of the prior legwork was even necessary... perhaps just a big waste of time actually)... and 'poof'.. it's over & the time you put in is wasted unless by chance you happen upon their tables again in the future (I haven't played that many MTTs on Stars and am finding I don't see too many of the same players in the MTTs I play... whereas on Fulltilt quite often I'll have notes on 3players from before.. sometimes alot more
    Here's the wonderful hand... sigh. On the flipside (positive side of things.. no sense in dwelling).. I need to go get some groceries before entering another handful of MTT's and to get going on them without a bunch of food prepared in advance isn't a good idea as I expect to be playing for a good 6-8hrs. once started. Off to the grocery store I go.


    PokerStars Game #47308692684: Tournament #323010631, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2010/07/26 17:09:39 ET
    Table '323010631 172' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 2: ms cepride (17040 in chips)
    Seat 3: kymi1234 (4340 in chips)
    Seat 4: acstone321 (2195 in chips)
    Seat 5: JanisSoprano (2980 in chips)
    Seat 6: Zomx (3720 in chips)
    Seat 7: falopez (2760 in chips)
    Seat 8: ChrisBinder1 (9140 in chips)
    Seat 9: mi23092 (5010 in chips)
    ms cepride: posts the ante 10
    kymi1234: posts the ante 10
    acstone321: posts the ante 10
    JanisSoprano: posts the ante 10
    Zomx: posts the ante 10
    falopez: posts the ante 10
    ChrisBinder1: posts the ante 10
    mi23092: posts the ante 10
    falopez: posts small blind 50
    ChrisBinder1: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to JanisSoprano [Kd Kc]
    mi23092: folds
    ms cepride: calls 100
    Barf80 is connected
    kymi1234: raises 4230 to 4330 and is all-in
    acstone321: folds
    JanisSoprano: calls 2970 and is all-in
    Zomx: folds
    falopez: folds
    ChrisBinder1: folds
    ms cepride: folds
    Uncalled bet (1360) returned to kymi1234
    *** FLOP *** [2h 8d Tc]
    *** TURN *** [2h 8d Tc] [Ah]
    *** RIVER *** [2h 8d Tc Ah] [6d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    kymi1234: shows [6c 6h] (three of a kind, Sixes)
    JanisSoprano: shows [Kd Kc] (a pair of Kings)
    kymi1234 collected 6270 from pot
    JanisSoprano finished the tournament in 1502nd place
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    Poker is so brutal.

    I know the feeling PO, it hurt like hell but what you do.

    My example today

    Stage #292372599 Tourney ID 5664482 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 1,000 - 2010-07-26 17:01:15 (ET)
    Table: 33 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - FRANKH111 (12,810 in chips)
    Seat 2 - MOHASOSO (22,632 in chips)
    Seat 3 - TT70 (24,546 in chips)
    Seat 4 - EEORFORSURE (31,598 in chips)
    Seat 5 - 1L0GAN (7,879 in chips)
    Seat 6 - POKERFACE281 (5,995 in chips)
    Seat 7 - HEYHO11 (2,925 in chips)
    Seat 8 - DEREKLEE1000 (16,372 in chips)
    Seat 9 - ROCKY1959 (4,325 in chips)
    FRANKH111 - Ante 100
    MOHASOSO - Ante 100
    TT70 - Ante 100
    EEORFORSURE - Ante 100
    1L0GAN - Ante 100
    POKERFACE281 - Ante 100
    HEYHO11 - Ante 100
    DEREKLEE1000 - Ante 100
    ROCKY1959 - Ante 100
    HEYHO11 - Posts small blind 500
    DEREKLEE1000 - Posts big blind 1,000
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to 1L0GAN [9s 9c]
    ROCKY1959 - Folds
    FRANKH111 - Folds
    MOHASOSO - Folds
    TT70 - Folds
    EEORFORSURE - Folds
    1L0GAN - All-In(Raise) 7,779 to 7,779
    POKERFACE281 - Folds
    HEYHO11 - Folds
    DEREKLEE1000 - Calls 6,779
    *** FLOP *** [10h 4d 2h]
    *** TURN *** [10h 4d 2h] [4c]
    *** RIVER *** [10h 4d 2h 4c] [Js]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    1L0GAN - Shows [9s 9c] (Two Pair, nines and fours)
    DEREKLEE1000 - Shows [4s 6c] (Three of a kind, fours)
    DEREKLEE1000 Collects 16,958 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total Pot(16,958)
    Board [10h 4d 2h 4c Js]
    Seat 1: FRANKH111 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 2: MOHASOSO Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 3: TT70 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 4: EEORFORSURE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 5: 1L0GAN HI:lost with Two Pair, nines and fours [9s 9c - P:9s,P:9c,B:4d,B:4c,B:Js]
    Seat 6: POKERFACE281 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 7: HEYHO11 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 8: DEREKLEE1000 (big blind) won Total (16,958) HI16,958) with Three of a kind, fours [4s 6c - P:4s,B:4d,B:4c,B:Js,B:10h]
    Seat 9: ROCKY1959 Folded on the POCKET CARDS

    What to do on those cases, maybe take your hands to not write bad languaje in chat, and expect that next time will hold.

    And yes, is hard, especially in MTT where you need a lot of hands, mind, time and in just one hand all go to trash.

    Anyway, thatīs poker and we know that happen a lot, like you say no sense in dwelling, just have to move on and be happy when you are in the other site.

    Very good luck in your games.




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    (COME ON OPPURTUNITY.. PLEASE PRESENT YOURSELF!!!.. LOL).
    I know the feeling, from the sounds of the end of your post you have played enough poker to understand that is just how it is.

    my recent addition to bad beat corner
    Paid top 5, $3 All-In or Fold

    [164/164]

    ##########################################
    Merge Network Game Tournament
    Blinds : 400/800 - Ante 80.0
    ##########################################

    5 players
    [SB] mrgomez84 (29916)
    [BB] AsianGrinder (6060)
    [1] Assistanc3(4584)
    [2] artist8 (15360)
    [But] Zodih4ck (4080)

    Assistanc3 As As Initial Pot: 1600

    Assistanc3 is All in
    artist8 folds
    Zodih4ck folds
    mrgomez84 is All in
    AsianGrinder folds
    mrgomez84 shows 3c 3c
    Assistanc3 shows As As
    ### FLOP ### 7h Th 4c
    ### TURN ### 5d
    ### RIVER ### 6d

    mrgomez84 wins 10208 from the main pot with A Strait, seven to three

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    The Bad Beat section needs a sub section "What did I do to deserve that" not really bad beats, not really much you can say to the hands because we all suffer them but it doesn't stop you asking WHY ME!!

    On the flip side yesterday I had a player try and trap me with a straight and I got runner runner quads and another where I was up against Mr passive (hate passive players) who called my bets when I was playing a straight flush draw and the straight flush hit on the river. Mr passive hit the flush and lost all his money I'm working hard on remembering the good ones and forgetting the bad ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan View Post
    Poker is so brutal.

    I know the feeling PO, it hurt like hell but what you do.

    My example today

    1L0GAN - All-In(Raise) 7,779 to 7,779
    DEREKLEE1000 - Calls 6,779

    1L0GAN - Shows [9s 9c] (Two Pair, nines and fours)
    DEREKLEE1000 - Shows [4s 6c] (Three of a kind, fours)
    DEREKLEE1000 Collects 16,958 from main pot

    Board [10h 4d 2h 4c Js]

    WOW.. wtf was this guy thinking, to call off 2/5th's of his stack with shyt?? Makes ya wonder... 'do they even think?' Do they have a clue what pot odds they're getting.. what kind of equity their 64s has here? What ranges their oppoent's are shoving with, etc. (mind you at 8bb's you should be shoving near atc's.. but on a table with a bunch of SS's.. things obviously change).
    Yup... never ceases to amaze me how bad some of the players are. I mean I'm supposed to like this... right? lol Sure, I love it in early levels, when they'll stack off 100bb's with some weak-azz shytty hands... it's great!!! (have had some very funny ones lately... I should probably post those instead of the badbeat ones... actually I know i should. I've vowed in the past to not screenshot or save a HH of a badbeat that is a Tournament ender (but also in the habit of saving some HH's for review & for saving the 'busto hand'.... picking this last part up from a staking site that usually will require the stakee to send the busto HH to staker... so they can see how they went out of game).
    Anyway, thatīs poker and we know that happen a lot, like you say no sense in dwelling, just have to move on and be happy when you are in the other site.

    Very good luck in your games.


    It sure is nice when the big hands hold!

    Assitanc3... yah.. AA getting busted sucks pretty badly. I think for myself, the crap thing is... when it's late levels & you're in shove/fold mode (not the game you were in there.. but am referring to MTTs in general).. or when you're sitting on a resteal-sized stack of say 15-22bb's... you wake up with a monster... idk but for me I feel a quick shot of adrenaline and along with that... the 'expectation' of a win..(especially after I see chips going into the pot ahead of me). It's like I"m already winning the hand (or contemplating it) before the cards are even dealt. Often times now, if it's at a crucial stage I'll cover the table over with another window or table.. or player notes, etc.,.. anything to cover the board... not wanting to see the flop come out that makes it a huge sweat (like a mono-tone flop giving 5h5d a shot to win over my AsAc.. when 3 hearts come out).
    Poker... what a crazy game we play... LOL. I think I'll go play a few mtts now.
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