so pissed ....

[Peteyweestro]

Tues night at Poker Stars i was in a league tourny for another forum and i am in 4th place after 7 weeks and with 3 more to go before its over.So i was first time in my life put on tilt because of some jack ass and what he did to me at the tables that caused me a very early exit when i needed a good showing. Well this is what went down...i had AsQs and he ended up having 68o, remember this because his hand is important,lol.So everyone at the table except the blinds and this idiot folds so i raise 4x the blinds and then the blinds players also fold and this clown with 68o calls,WTF? The flop comes A,6,8 and so me hitting my high pair start betting very aggressivly and he keeps calling, i should have thought that by him still calling me and then raised me that he had something nice but by then i was going all in with my A out of stupidity and yep when the cards were exposed i went nuts, thinking why in the hell did he call my 4x raise with that crap? Of course after the flop he had me but the fact that he called me with that just irked me big times, and i never been bothered at the virtual tables like this event did me. I am usually an advocate of play your cards how ever you want to but C'MON PEOPLE 8 6 off !!!!

[Dan Abnormal]

I feel you pain to a lesser degree but 2 nights in a row. Playing these stupid Cake Satalite 1K FR top 7 Move on. Yesterday 14th place need only about 10K to get in, PP=99 so I push all in just wanting the blinds, Hell no, so dude with 2 undercards calls and they hit and knocks me out

TONIGHT FEK again, Im 9th place all I need is a Few 1000 to get into top 7 GEt delt QQ and after last nights fiasco I try to avoid the all in so I just push 3x BB and IP (BOTH NIGHTS) and get re-raised all in (so what do you do fold QQ) Well I guess the answer is yes,, I was expecting to see KK or AA but A9o and what is the first card on the flop an A and thats all that mattered. GOODBYE 11th place. CRAP IS DRIVING ME CRAZY

[nb1961]

I feel your pain, but sorry I would do that too. You say you were in the early stages so the blinds are low. 4x bb wouldn't be a big proportion of his stack. If he hits like he did he stands a good chance of taking lots of chips if he misses easy fold. I find it works better against players you know.

[sos_egg_n]

Not my kinda style but pends on blinds if he called 20 chips u raised to 80 he called and won 1500 off u.....hes got a bargain.

without blinds size its impossible to make judgement.

Sos

[Assistanc3]

Tues night at Poker Stars i was in a league tourny for another forum and i am in 4th place after 7 weeks and with 3 more to go before its over.So i was first time in my life put on tilt because of some jack ass and what he did to me at the tables that caused me a very early exit when i needed a good showing.

I'm gonna ignore everything after that part because the hand your talking about is just an example of bad beat at the table.

If a good showing was so important to you, why are you in a raise war with with 1 pair?

4th place after 7 weeks with 3 to go, sounds like you have to outlast players rather then win tournaments outright to catch up on the leader board.

AQ= kiss of death
one of the hardest hands in poker to play

[kingmotan]

Of course he called ur 4x bet (probably in position) when you stack off with top pair lmao.
And next time look again in what section you post this crap.

[nb1961]

And next time look again in what section you post this crap.

Bit strong Mo

I don't agree this is crap, I think this is a worth while post and should promote discussion. We all play differently and only by discussing the way we play do we learn. Comments like this push us down the route of some other forums where it seems the done thing put down players. I use forums and the net to learn.

I'm always hesitant to post about the way I play and some of the hands I play because I'm a feel player rather than a maths player and when people start to pull my play apart because I've done something mathematically stupid it puts a downer on me. So good for you Petey for posting and good luck at the tables.

[Poker Orifice]

Often I'll exercise 'pot control'... ie. with the AQ on a A64 flop.. I'll likely lead out for 1/2 pot only (hoping weaker aces will call me down ). Other times I'l actually check my top pr., fearing that I'm folding out ALOT of hands I'll get value from on the turn if I just check the Ace flop (ie. JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77). < this is what I'll often do.
If I choose to cbet this Ace-flop, and villain calls, I must consider their holdings (hmm.. they may have a set?). This is a spot where I'll often check the turn, for 'pot control'.. If I'm ahead here there's not many cards my opponent can catch that I need to be worried about (maybe a 2-outer on a board like that if they're holding a mid pr. This will often allow me to lose the minimum or even possibly get away from the hand.
Sometimes winning = not losing.

[Washerwoman]

I take it all these "experts" criticising other people's play are making millions at poker?

No...

I didn't think so!

[Poker Orifice]

I take it all these "experts" criticising other people's play are making millions at poker?

No...

I didn't think so!

What are you ^ talking about?
I only read one post above that was critical. The others seemed helpful to me.
Some players/members might be great players.... should they be making millions?

The hand in question - it really depends upon villain in the hand. In micro limits you'll find some players who are going to re-raise you allin on the flop with TopPr. weak kicker (or might even overbet 10x POT with a weak top pr. hand..... umm... like 'laundryperson' does so often in the 4king league games).. So in some cases we're just looking to get it in there as fast as we can whereas in others we need to play it a bit more cautiously >> if it's vs. a solid player & our cbet is called we need to consider what their hand might possibly be that we'll be getting value you from (could be a wa/wb hand < way ahead/way behind). As sos_egg suggested.. we don't know size of blinds or stacks so it's tough to even give suggestions.
For future reference though... when you're in a headsup pot with a hand like this, sometimes (depending upon villain) it's better to check the TPGK hand on the flop because you'll be able to get ALOT more value out of hands that would otherwise fold on the flop to your cbet (like I mentioned above, we're going to 'likely' fold out alot of hands we could get value you from on the turn & river but that would fold to the flop bet.. ie. JJ/TT/99/88, etc. Again though it's player dependant.

Not meant to offend here at all.... just tryin' to be helpful as I'm sure most of the others above are as well.