Crazy Call or not

[Assistanc3]

I think your giving to much credit to players at lower levels and since we have the answers, its trying to find the right question. The hand was played out fully so its not guessing at would could or would happen its why it happened.

How do you expect to understand why bad players do what they do. If your only answer is "I wouldn't do that" or that is weird or bad playing. I guess that is the thing your missing with a HUD program is actual poker playing.

[Poker Orifice]

I think your giving to much credit to players at lower levels and since we have the answers, its trying to find the right question. The hand was played out fully so its not guessing at would could or would happen its why it happened.
What?

How do you expect to understand why bad players do what they do. If your only answer is "I wouldn't do that" or that is weird or bad playing. < Umm.. because it is real bad...I guess that is the thing your missing with a HUD program is actual poker playing.

Are you referring to me? I don't use a HUD while playing MTTs & SNG's. So wtf are you talking about here?
How am I missing something? Anyone with 5bb's who min-raises with a low pp is just out & out bad imo. How would having a HUD or not have anything to do with that?. Anyone thinking that a player with 5bb's would EVER fold when they're reraised allin (after they've min-raised 40% of their stack) is out there. Anyone who wouldn't want the player to call while ahead 4to1.. is crazy. So it goes south when AA loses. We should NEVER consider how or why we should've played it differently in this spot.. EVER. It just is what it is.

If youi're gonna have some sort of rebuttal... at least have some sort of rebuttal (instead of grasping at stuff & fabricating other stuff & suggesting that this is why I am missing something ie. 'HUD').

[Alnoble]

Just want to add that altough it was a $1 tournement it was not a donk fest. It was the PS UK /Ireland Division 1 game which runs every night and most nights only has around 200 players. It's not big money so a large portion of the players play for the points and are serious players resulting in better play.

It usually takes 4 hours to get to the final table. Me I would have shoved with the small pair and yes I wanted him to call his whole stack.

[Assistanc3]

We should NEVER consider how or why we should've played it differently in this spot.. EVER. It just is what it is.

I'm talking about playing the hand from MP+1 point of view
it is what it is, so how did they make that determination

as for the fabrication, your the one who talks about knowing everyone's stats.
I would go back and look and quote them, but your double and triple posts makes that hard

[Poker Orifice]

I'm talking about playing the hand from MP+1 point of view
it is what it is, so how did they make that determination

as for the fabrication, your the one who talks about knowing everyone's stats.
I would go back and look and quote them, but your double and triple posts makes that hard

I'm referring to you saying that I use a HUD & because of it I'm missing out on playing the game (or something along those lines). Why say that? Why post that? It's f'n ridiculous.

Sorry for hijacking the post here Al, just don't appreciate it when someone makes stuff up that is far from fact.

[Assistanc3]

facts don't start off with " I guess "


this is why I think your missing out on the game
Question

How do you expect to understand why bad players do what they do.
If your only answer is "I wouldn't do that" or that is weird or bad playing.

your reply

because it is real bad...

try to figure WHY
you do understand that is what posting of hand histories are about?

Notice how Alnoble had replied it being a league game, with points
see, that is a variable to take into conclusion to WHY someone plays a hand, no?

[Poker Orifice]

facts don't start off with " I guess "


this is why I think your missing out on the game
Questionyour replytry to figure WHY
you do understand that is what posting of hand histories are about?
Is it? Is that what it's about?
Notice how Alnoble had replied it being a league game, with points
see, that is a variable to take into conclusion to WHY someone plays a hand, no?

I see a ton of small stacks on a table where nobody is deep. I see a guy with 5bb's put in a minraise.. giving anyone MONSTER odds to call with anything in LP. How hard is it to see that would be the LAST thing you'd want with a low pp in that spot? Isn't a shove like SUPER obvious... I mean he might even have some FE.. especially considering it's a pts. tourney in some priv. deal/thingy. MinRaise is just super bad on many levels... too many to bother with writing about it.
Dude.. perhaps that's what posting HH's is all about for you. For me when I see a play that is just simple/noobie/rookie bad... do I really have to go into detail of the 'why'? Why?
What is up with you anyways.... lately any post I make it seems as if you're compelled to post something to the contrary & when I have gone into detail explaining something, your response has been > "Oh sorry... blah blah blah, etc."
I'm not here to write in a pissing contest. You think I'm "missing out on the game"? I actually find this kinda humorous. BUT what I find annoying is your comments after just about every post I've made lately. What's up with it? Is it from the post a couple of weeks ago? Is it the result of a bruised ego or something?

[Poker Orifice]

I think your giving to much credit to players at lower levels and since we have the answers, its trying to find the right question. The hand was played out fully so its not guessing at would could or would happen its why it happened.

How do you expect to understand why bad players do what they do. If your only answer is "I wouldn't do that" or that is weird or bad playing. I guess that is the thing your missing with a HUD program is actual poker playing.

Actually this wasn't my only response. Did you read the two posts prior to this one ^ where I've asked questions about your post? I don't think you answered them at all. (should I repost them?).

[Assistanc3]

I didn't think my guessing at whats in MP+1's head needed a reply, its easy to say what he did wrong, but apparently near impossible to say why he did it....oh, other then he plays bad,

you are aware Hanson, Dwan, etc make A LOT of "bad" plays
they do have a reason for making them : )

[Poker Orifice]

you are aware Hanson, Dwan, etc make A LOT of "bad" plays
they do have a reason for making them : )

pretty sure that 'metagame' stuff on a cash table is quite a bit different than playing poorly with a 5bb stack in an MTT (unless of course.. seeing as it's a league game... the 5bb stack player is just setting up his opponents for the 'next' few tourneys.. so he opts to play this hand poorly to increase his odds of getting KO'd.. so that 'next' time (or the time after that... .or perhaps even the time after that) he has them set up so he can crush them.