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    Default PS strikes again

    I know it was a free roll but how could he call with 63

    PokerStars - |50/100 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    UTG: 1,160.00
    UTG+1: 1,275.00
    MP: 4,195.00
    Hero (MP+1): 9,410.00
    CO: 3,380.00
    BTN: 3,865.00
    SB: 7,745.00
    BB: 3,790.00

    SB posts SB 50.00, BB posts BB 100.00

    Pre Flop: (150.00) Hero has 3d Qd

    fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 100.00, fold, fold, SB calls 50.00, BB raises to 400.00, Hero calls 300.00, SB calls 300.00

    Flop: (1200.00, 3 players) 6s 5c Qs
    SB checks, BB bets 200.00, Hero raises to 500.00, SB raises to 1,100.00, fold, Hero raises to 9,010.00 and is all-in, SB calls 6,245.00 and is all-in

    Turn: (16090.00, 2 players) 9h

    River: (16090.00, 2 players) 6d

    SB shows 3c 6h (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (PreFlop 28%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
    Hero shows 3d Qd (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes) (PreFlop 72%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
    SB wins 16,090.00
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    Are you serious posting this hand? let me just mwahahahahaha
    Guy can ask you the same question how can someone call a raise pre with Q3 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnoble View Post
    I know it was a free roll but how could he call with 63
    Same like you call with Q3?

    Donīt want to be rude , Al, but BB raise and you still call with Q3?

    I mean, yes you have the best hand in flop, and yes you are the big stack, but that donīt mean trow your chips away, if he raise pre with AQ, KQ, JQ, TQ, Q9, Q8, Q7, Q6, Q5, Q4, 66, 55 , QQ, KK, AA, you still are beat in flop, and considering that Sb is also there and is the only one who can hurt you big time should be careful, so at least was ok that Sb was a bad player and play 63 after the raise and even call in flop.

    UL, but that happen a lot playing that trash and limping in first place, sb will play the hand if is raised pre by you? will never know ).

    Also like you say is a freebie...

    How he call in flop?, easy, he hit his 6 and in a freebie a lot push in flop hiting or not so his second pair was gold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnoble View Post
    Pre Flop: (150.00) Hero has 3d Qd
    "But they were soooooooooooooooted."

    Sorry Al, not getting a lot of support here. You got out-crapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmotan View Post
    Are you serious posting this hand? let me just mwahahahahaha
    Guy can ask you the same question how can someone call a raise pre with Q3 lol
    /thread

    I agree here. I would have never limped with Q-3s. I also never would have called a raise with it. But, the OP did have alot of money... Sometimes people loosen up when they have alot of chips. This may be a leak in your game. If you would have put that Q-3s in the muck to begin with (in my humble opinion that is what you should have done), you wouldn't have lost a huge pot with (what I consider to be) a worthless hand. Food for thought.

    But, conversely, that was a thin call with 6-3... But maybe he saw the OP as a loose cannon or something... There might have been some table dynamics to explain that call?? Just my very humble opinion here, no disrespect intended to the OP. Peace.

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    First off it was a freeroll so how I play is totally different to a money game.

    At low levels I will play a wide range of hands and limp fold the flop when I miss. In freerolls on PS tight play gets you nowhere.

    I pushed expecting him to be weak and fold. If he had had the Q he would have pushed first (Previous play) didn't think he risk it all on middle pair.

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    I'm not saying i would have called a raise with Q3 sooooted or not,but i also agree with Al that trying a freeroll at riverstars and playing really tight won't really work out for you either, so i can see both sides of the fence on this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnoble View Post
    First off it was a freeroll so how I play is totally different to a money game.

    At low levels I will play a wide range of hands and limp fold the flop when I miss. In freerolls on PS tight play gets you nowhere.

    I pushed expecting him to be weak and fold. If he had had the Q he would have pushed first (Previous play) didn't think he risk it all on middle pair.

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    I see what you are saying here with playing differently on a freeroll. But, you are going to get alot of hands, why would you ever play that Q-3s? I know it's a freeroll, but dude, it's Q-3!! But you did have a good read if you put him on middle pair, and it was the winner, until the river. All of this could have been avoided by just folding the Q-3s. At a full table, I would probably NEVER play Q-3 suited, unless blinded into it. I wouldn't even limp my small blind with it. It is a trouble hand. And just because it is a freeroll, doesn't mean the laws of probability change. It is still a weak hand, freeroll or $5000 sit n go.

    And I don't know if I would consider folding Q-3 suited to be tight play. Folding A-10off out of position would be playing tight, and that's a monster compared to Q-3 suited. I am not saying you are wrong to play loose in the early stages and play weak starting hands. I play tight in early stages for a few reasons (freeroll or real money). The pots are small because the blinds are small. You can't win the tournament in the first hour. It is a waste of money to try and steal blinds when it is less than a hundred chips. If you waste all your chips missing with garbage the first hour, then you are short stacked. Being short stacked sucks in a freeroll, because you know you are getting at least one call if you push. Not to mention, all the morons who push all in every friggin hand are gone after a while (for the most part). My humble opinion based on a whole lot of research. But to actually make the money in a freeroll, you would need alot of luck and skill. Of course I agree with you that it is a different kind of game. Freerolls are crazy.

    P.S. Text shows no emotion. I do not mean any disrespect, nor am I mocking you in any way. I am just debating the issue. Just want to make sure I am not perceived as rude or something. Peace.
    Last edited by beanfacekilla; 01-26-2011 at 12:29 PM.

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