How do you handle giving badbeats?

[madjek]

Playing in a 10 dollar ss tourney, my stack took a beatin when my QQ got beat by A 10. Managed to get it back up to starting size (5000) when in my BB I get 8 9 diamonds. Mp raises 3X bb everyone else folds, so I decide to take a chance and "protect my blind".
That's :

Me (bb): 8d 9d
mp : I'll tell you later

flop comes : 4s 8s 4d

he puts out around 75% pot, I'm thinking he has a big A so I raise it up, he thinks, pushes, he has double my stack btw. Now I think he prob. has a pair, but am I committed? As usual I can't stop myself and call. This is what happened:
Me 8d 9d
mp Q Q

flop 4s 8s 4d Jd 6d

I felt terrible, but I enjoyed the chips, still playin right now, let you know if i did anything with them.

[Ravensfan929]

Playing in a 10 dollar ss tourney, my stack took a beatin when my QQ got beat by A 10. Managed to get it back up to starting size (5000) when in my BB I get 8 9 diamonds. Mp raises 3X bb everyone else folds, so I decide to take a chance and "protect my blind".
That's :

Me (bb): 8d 9d
mp : I'll tell you later

flop comes : 4s 8s 4d

he puts out around 75% pot, I'm thinking he has a big A so I raise it up, he thinks, pushes, he has double my stack btw. Now I think he prob. has a pair, but am I committed? As usual I can't stop myself and call. This is what happened:
Me 8d 9d
mp Q Q

flop 4s 8s 4d Jd 6d

I felt terrible, but I enjoyed the chips, still playin right now, let you know if i did anything with them.

I dont feel bad or anything because it happens to me all the time so i feel like im finally getting some justice lol. So how did you end up doing when it was all over?

[BluffYou123]

Dishing out bad beats and taking them is all part of the game. I wouldn't worry about it. The only thing I would say is, if you are giving people alot of bad beats, you are obviously not playing very well. If it's only the odd one here and there it's all good.

People can get very upset if you make a move and suckout on them. e.g. I was playing a tourney the other day and had Ac4c on the button. Was close to the bubble and had ~8bbs so I shipped it. Got called by sb who had AQ and spiked the 4. One player at the table got quite upset with me (he wasn't even involved in the hand) and started calling me a donk etc. I don't think I did anything wrong, just ran into a better hand and got lucky.

Anyone think this is a horrible play? I woulda shipped almost ATC as I had both blinds covered.

[Poker Orifice]

Playing in a 10 dollar ss tourney, my stack took a beatin when my QQ got beat by A 10. Managed to get it back up to starting size (5000) when in my BB I get 8 9 diamonds. Mp raises 3X bb everyone else folds, so I decide to take a chance and "protect my blind".
That's :

Me (bb): 8d 9d
mp : I'll tell you later

flop comes : 4s 8s 4d

he puts out around 75% pot, I'm thinking he has a big A so I raise it up, he thinks, pushes, he has double my stack btw. Now I think he prob. has a pair, but am I committed? As usual I can't stop myself and call. This is what happened:
Me 8d 9d
mp Q Q

flop 4s 8s 4d Jd 6d

I felt terrible, but I enjoyed the chips, still playin right now, let you know if i did anything with them.

It's impossible to know if you've pot-committed yourself with the big checkraise on flop here, without knowing how big the blinds were at the time.
As far as thinkin' > "need to protect my blind" .. this is a bad way of looking at things. I mean sure, you can't fold your BB all the time, but 'depending' the size of the blinds vs. 'effective' stack sizes (size of your stack & the raiser's in relation to the blinds), calling in blinds isn't the greatest plan (you're too often going to get yourself into spots like this one here, where you've caught a piece of the board but really you have no clue as to whether you're way ahead or way behind). Another big mistake is to 'put them on as limited of range of hands as 'a big ace' when nothing really tells us this from the play (he could have a wide range here, ie. JJ+)

also, the 'he thinks' part.. after you've check-raised, is often a big hand, acting like he needs to think about it.. but is actually strong.(not sure why some players even do this?)

[Poker Orifice]

oh yah... sorry.. didn't answer the actual question of the thread (oops).
How do I feel about giving badbeats? Great!!!! Doesn't happen nearly often enough.

[rgchan]

"One player at the table got quite upset with me (he wasn't even involved in the hand) and started calling me a donk etc. I don't think I did anything wrong, just ran into a better hand and got lucky."

I hate other players not involved the hand commenting like this.You said it was Bubble time and this player was probably upset because you Doubled Up and escaped the Bubble.

As for Bad Beats I don,t care about dishing in normal site games.But in our forum games and to a respected player I will even say "sorry ,, that was ugly" or something if i misread his/her hand and then sukked out on it.I may say I put you on Ace-K/Q and not QQ,s for example.And say i got Lucky there.I know how it feels.
Rg

[Peteyweestro]

When i suck out it doesn't make me feel bad at all, in fact i rather enjoy it because of 2 reasons, first all the times it has happened to me and secondly, the same way i say that we are dealt our cards and we can play them any way we damn well please to. If getting river'd or sucked out on wasn't a part of the game then they would not deal past the flop, there would be no need to really.So thats why yesterday when it was commented about me sucking out with K's it didn't bother me. Maybe i am a dickhead or maybe i just think of it as a card game and not enough of a big deal to get all emotional about.

[hojediade]

oh yah... sorry.. didn't answer the actual question of the thread (oops).
How do I feel about giving badbeats? Great!!!! Doesn't happen nearly often enough.

+1
So true...

To me, being on one side or the other is the same, it's part of the game... My only 'precept' in such situation is keep on being a gentleman. If my opponent don't deserve this behaviour, then i will try everything for him to steam, but i'm probably too fair play.

[fndrbndr79]

Kinda off topic, but:

When someone berates a player for his bad play, I do everything I can to encourage the bad player to keep playing just like he has been. I've actually said things like, "Yeah, it was 5-7 off...that's almost as good as a suited connector, since you can't lose on a bad flush," while folding something like JJ because of the action in front of me. lol I try to keep a mental list of snide remarks and comebacks ready, like, "I didn't realize Phil Hellmuth had dropped all the way to the penny tables." I do this partly because a player like that can kill the action, but partly because it will get him more frustrated and (hopefully) put him on tilt. You can value bet a guy like that because he has to show that he's making good calls.

Also, the guys doing the berating aren't typically the borderline clairvoyant geniuses they like to think they are. Once, a guy berated me for playing AA "like a donk" by shoving all in with it preflop in a SNG. I doubled up off him. A few hands later, I got it again, shoved again, he called again with an inferior hand, and he doubled me up again. I got it a third time on the bubble, shoved again, and once again, he called with a middling pair, and berated me for playing my AA "like a donk," by which he meant isolating against a single player and winning the maximum. lol

[ennotserp]

I don't feel terrible at all - especially since IMO the opposite occurs a lot more then not.
Especially with the SS, if it happens, you are merely staying alive and not knocking someone out - you have to widen your range depending on your stack.
I usually say "Thank You" to myself out loud (not in the chat) and continue on.