So bad beats can only occur after the flop? I am sorry to say to you know it all's, you are WRONG! It is a bad beat, I understand if the guy had A 3 suited, or maybe even 2 3 suited wouldn't of been "so" bad. The fact that the guy even called with a 2 3 offsuit makes that a bad beat. The odds of that guy having a 3 is off the charts in my favor, and all of you know it. You guys are so smart! ScrawnyBob I appreciate the help, but the guys that call me the idiot for calling there need to back off.
Pocket 5's understandable, but I liked my odds guys! Just to make another point, I wouldn't have posted on the bad beat board if he had a 5 5, or A 3 suited!
No: badbeats can only occur after you or the other guy put all the money in the pot and the one with the better hand AT THAT POINT loses.
My friend, why don't ou want to understand that your chances of winning were 90%? If you liked those odd, well, then I rest my case.
You were somewhat unlucky that the fish hit the flop? yes
Should he have folded? Maybe yes, maybe no. He had GREAT implied odds. If he put you two guys on two high pairs (JJ or abuve) or overcards (AK, AQ), he knew that if he'd hit the flop he could slowplay you and clean you out. as simple as it is. As I said, I think that he had put one blind in the pot before your raise (either big blind or limp) and after that he had to call 3 blinds in order to fight for a pot of 9.5 or 10 blinds. Most of the trash flops would make his hand somehow and all those flops would ver much tempt you to move allin in order to protect your great hand (which you actually did). Here's some of them: any 22X, any 33X, any 23X, any A45, 456.
You, on the other hand, considered you are the man and didn't think you could lose. You ruled out some obvious hands (A3s, 55, even 34s) and you never thought about WHY would he try and bluff you out of such a pot, in that phase of the tourney, with one player already allin and with you nearly committed (as a fact, it usually is futile trying to bluff a committed player out of a pot). Furthermore, that 4bb raise was too small. With KK you don't want to be in a pot with any hand but premium. You had a short stack to your left, who was probably waiting for a hand to move allin. You raise 20k, or 24k preflop and you can be almost certain that only a pair or some high hand (AK, AQ, AJ, MAYBE KQ) will call. You simply put him on QQ and never reconsidered that.
Better luck next time.
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Sandmanro makes a good point ones again, we dont judge your play and say your a idiot ? when did we say your a idiot , i would remember something like that ... there are other hands we ruled out at that point how about pocket 3 making him quad city ? maybe he even called with 35 suited , and more likely like sandman and scrawny said pocket 5 or A3 any other hand combination that would likely scoop the put where 24 suited. having the inside out draw with the flush draw .
Yet again , its bad luck not a bad beat , bad beat, you and the other guy push it all in when flop is visible, your way ahead and your opponents chances are slim to win , but he catches the miracle ( lets say , ace on the river ) giving him only 2 or 3 outs to take the pot is a bad beat .
Bad beat is not the same as bad luck !
We dont act like wise guys , cause im posting this to help you , not to bad mouth you .
I just wanted to thank you guys on the tips... seriously! I haven't had near as many bad luck incidences. I haven't won a freeroll yet, but definitely making it a lot further than I normally would. I slowed down my aggressive play, and I've made the right plays. My anger has dropped tremendously. At one point I had pocket 10's and folded them pre flop, the othere two that went all in had j's and Q's. definitely made the right play.
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Only the top 63 get something, hurt really bad, because 3 out of the last 4 nights I have been sitting pretty like that. Then BOOM I'm out, and I'm losing with solid hands. I did win an Absolute Dream Package Final table free roll. The tournament is a $200 +16 buy in, I just pray there is no idiots in that one!!!
Very impressive to win the AP Dream Package buy-in. That's tough to do. For some reason Absolute has never been a good site for me. I don't do well there, so I seldom play there.
Good luck at the Dream Package tourney. Hope you do great. Let us know how it goes. And remember-there will be idiots, so be careful
... At one point I had pocket 10's and folded them pre flop, the othere two that went all in had j's and Q's. definitely made the right play.
If you were the last to act and they both moved allin in front of you, it would have been the right play no matter what they were holding. even 8-9 and 2-3.
Keep up the good job.
I had yesterday a bad streak on fultilt, too. overplayed QQ on a 2-7-10 flop and the other guy had 10-10, then hit the K-high flush against two other guys, one with A-high flush and one with nearly straight flush and finaly hit the striaght with 8-10 and a 7,8,9 flop, J on the turn and the other guy had 10-Q. It might have been bad luck or just simple bad play.
Good day all
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So bad beats can only occur after the flop? I am sorry to say to you know it all's, you are WRONG! It is a bad beat, I understand if the guy had A 3 suited, or maybe even 2 3 suited wouldn't of been "so" bad. The fact that the guy even called with a 2 3 offsuit makes that a bad beat. The odds of that guy having a 3 is off the charts in my favor, and all of you know it. You guys are so smart! ScrawnyBob I appreciate the help, but the guys that call me the idiot for calling there need to back off.
Pocket 5's understandable, but I liked my odds guys! Just to make another point, I wouldn't have posted on the bad beat board if he had a 5 5, or A 3 suited!
LOL@ This is a very TILTeee post Pork....i was watching poker on tv last night and the announcers said this one player "he is on his way to see old uncle tilty"...........
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??? What the hell
, no seriously ... 
... there are other hands we ruled out at that point how about pocket 3 making him quad city ? maybe he even called with 35 suited , and more likely like sandman and scrawny said pocket 5 or A3 any other hand combination that would likely scoop the put where 24 suited. having the inside out draw with the flush draw .
