dumb calls..

[smjnc]

PokerStars Game #16377219830: Tournament #82927494, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit
- Level I (10/20) - 2008/03/30 - 23:28:33 (ET)
Table '82927494 3' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: stricknhine (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: tsu pike (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: 4bbdad (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: sym202 (1870 in chips)
Seat 5: TIP-KING05 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: aslankurt (1790 in chips)
Seat 7: PrinceB2 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: smjnc (940 in chips)
Seat 9: bandixrexgin (1500 in chips)
sym202: posts small blind 10
TIP-KING05: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to smjnc [Ac As]
aslankurt: calls 20
PrinceB2: calls 20
smjnc: raises 140 to 160
bandixrexgin: folds
stricknhine: folds
tsu pike: folds
4bbdad: folds
sym202: folds
TIP-KING05: folds
aslankurt: calls 140
PrinceB2: calls 140
*** FLOP *** [8s Qd Ad]
aslankurt: checks
PrinceB2: checks
smjnc: bets 60
aslankurt: raises 60 to 120
PrinceB2: folds
smjnc: raises 120 to 240
aslankurt: calls 120
*** TURN *** [8s Qd Ad] [9c]
aslankurt: bets 80
smjnc: raises 460 to 540 and is all-in
aslankurt: calls 460
*** RIVER *** [8s Qd Ad 9c] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
aslankurt: shows [Jh 9d] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
smjnc: shows [Ac As] (three of a kind, Aces)
aslankurt collected 2070 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2070 | Rake 0
Board [8s Qd Ad 9c Td]
Seat 1: stricknhine folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: tsu pike folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 4bbdad (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: sym202 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: TIP-KING05 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: aslankurt showed [Jh 9d] and won (2070) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 7: PrinceB2 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: smjnc showed [Ac As] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 9: bandixrexgin folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[kingjames07]

yeah that was a pretty dumb call on his part....i think myself short stacked would have went all in preflop if not then for sure on the flop...you had the best hand possible preflop and on the flop....not sayin u played it wrong just tellin what i would have done

[Zach]

What we do not know is what was done one of the two previous hands.

This is obviously the third hand of the game ... and he is down 500+ ... so what he had done in one of the two previous hands may be a part of why he was called.

Either way - the person making the call, they could afford to make it.

For some reason people neglect to factor that into things.

[Killermanner]

Originally Posted by kingjames07

yeah that was a pretty dumb call on his part....i think myself short stacked would have went all in preflop if not then for sure on the flop...you had the best hand possible preflop and on the flop....not sayin u played it wrong just tellin what i would have done

Yep, indeed it's the perfect way to play if you're a short stacked.

[jeffsbabe]

I think I would have gone all in pre-flop. If you got called and the cards didn't fall your way, oh well, live to fight another day.

[jctm1988]

Ye i do aswell wonder what you could have done in the first 2 hands ?


Else he would not have called the all in ...



JCTM1988

[NUCKING_FUTS_4]

Personally the bet after the flop was a bit low, and the reraise after his raise was definately too small, 4-5x his bet (ie you allin) would have been better IMO (Dangerous board: Flush and straight draws). By the time the turn has come the pot is sweet enough for him to stay and take the chance to knock you out and it won't cost him anymore. He probably had you on an ace and fancied his chances. The call of all in is a bit rough i admit but the problems got worse for you at the flop, thats when he made his mind up tho he probably should never had been there in the first place.

Are you dumbing the call preflop or the allin?

[rlg476]

a higher preflob raise may have forced to fold. Another case of slow playing aces.

[smjnc]

Originally Posted by NUCKING_FUTS_4

Are you dumbing the call preflop or the allin?

nope. thanks for +feedback firstly. second this thread should be called dumb ass plays. (by me) i really just wanted to keep the fish on the line at the flop figured he would reraise. then when he did and i came over top i thought for sure he would push. either way he wasnt gonna fold and got lucky. i got pissed. gl mang.

[NUCKING_FUTS_4]

Glad you thought the feedback was positive.

Some think slowplaying is a mistake. Its a tool, and when used in the right situation, is best for the job in hand. Here the situation was clearly dangerous with the draws on the flop, and slowplaying was a mistake. Given a quieter flop then certainly i would slowplay a big hand like AAA especially if the fish wants to wriggle on the line .

Poker is about situations and each is unique. When you've a biggie take time to assess the situation before acting.
The headiness of a biggie can catch us all from time to time.