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Old 08-02-2008, 10:04 PM
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Default That's why they call it RiverStars

Nothing like getting it all in as a 10:1 favorite

PokerStars Game #19292450382: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/08/02 - 05:22:22 (ET)
Table 'Leukothea' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Mitch184 ($16.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Freez78 ($39.80 in chips)
Seat 3: pirates831 ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 4: bluluver ($38.65 in chips)
Seat 5: primaxp ($26.95 in chips)
Seat 6: polaroid83 ($25 in chips)
pirates831: posts small blind $0.10
bluluver: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pirates831 [4d 6s]
primaxp: folds
primaxp leaves the table
polaroid83: raises $0.75 to $1
Mitch184: folds
Freez78: folds
pirates831: calls $0.90
bluluver: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 4c 8h]
pirates831: checks
polaroid83: bets $1.75
pirates831: raises $1.75 to $3.50
polaroid83: raises $20.50 to $24 and is all-in
pirates831: calls $20.50
*** TURN *** [4s 4c 8h] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [4s 4c 8h Js] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pirates831: shows [4d 6s] (three of a kind, Fours)
polaroid83: shows [As Ad] (a full house, Aces full of Fours)
polaroid83 collected $47.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.25 | Rake $2.50
Board [4s 4c 8h Js Ah]
Seat 1: Mitch184 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Freez78 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pirates831 (small blind) showed [4d 6s] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: bluluver (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: primaxp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: polaroid83 showed [As Ad] and won ($47.75) with a full house, Aces full of Fours
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:07 PM
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That is a pretty bad one but i think i would a folded the 46 pre flop when it was raised to $1 but everyone plays different
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Old 08-03-2008, 04:13 AM
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That is a pretty bad one but i think i would a folded the 46 pre flop when it was raised to $1 but everyone plays different
I agree, was a "particular" way to defend your blinds. The term defend the blinds don't mean pay any raise that you receive with any card. But as killerpot said, everyone plays different.
Better luck next time.
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Old 08-03-2008, 04:22 PM
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Its seems like every site online has players complaining about the river. It can be a savior or an executionor but it is the same on every site, not just Stars.
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:43 PM
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That wasnt a bad beat that was justice for the terrible call you made preflop. It would have been an absolutely horrible beat for him if that hand you had held up...
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:36 PM
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PokerStars Game #19336674961: Tournament #94805849, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/08/03 - 19:16:52 (ET)
Table '94805849 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: KillerPot (1480 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: starsmyle (2860 in chips)
Seat 3: kingjames260 (1180 in chips)
Seat 4: turkeystudd (1250 in chips)
Seat 5: dtcruiser (1595 in chips)
Seat 7: Maxima1964 (1365 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: JanisSoprano (860 in chips)
Seat 9: tiff_610 (1410 in chips) is sitting out
JanisSoprano: posts small blind 15
tiff_610: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JanisSoprano [Kd Ks]
KillerPot: folds
starsmyle: folds
kingjames260: calls 30
turkeystudd: folds
dtcruiser: raises 90 to 120
Maxima1964: folds
JanisSoprano: raises 740 to 860 and is all-in
tiff_610: folds
kingjames260: calls 830
dtcruiser: raises 735 to 1595 and is all-in
kingjames260: calls 320 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (415) returned to dtcruiser
*** FLOP *** [3s 7d Ts]
*** TURN *** [3s 7d Ts] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [3s 7d Ts 9d] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kingjames260: shows [Qh Ah] (high card Ace)
dtcruiser: shows [Js Jc] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
dtcruiser collected 640 from side pot
JanisSoprano: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
JanisSoprano said, "wow"
dtcruiser said, "dude thats sick"
kingjames260 said, "gg"
dtcruiser collected 2610 from main pot
starsmyle said, "wow"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3250 Main pot 2610. Side pot 640. | Rake 0
Board [3s 7d Ts 9d 8s]
Seat 1: KillerPot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: starsmyle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kingjames260 showed [Qh Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: turkeystudd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dtcruiser showed [Js Jc] and won (3250) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 7: Maxima1964 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: JanisSoprano (small blind) showed [Kd Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: tiff_610 (big blind) folded before FlopPokerStars Game #19336674961: Tournament #94805849, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/08/03 - 19:16:52 (ET)
Table '94805849 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: KillerPot (1480 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: starsmyle (2860 in chips)
Seat 3: kingjames260 (1180 in chips)
Seat 4: turkeystudd (1250 in chips)
Seat 5: dtcruiser (1595 in chips)
Seat 7: Maxima1964 (1365 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: JanisSoprano (860 in chips)
Seat 9: tiff_610 (1410 in chips) is sitting out
JanisSoprano: posts small blind 15
tiff_610: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JanisSoprano [Kd Ks]
KillerPot: folds
starsmyle: folds
kingjames260: calls 30
turkeystudd: folds
dtcruiser: raises 90 to 120
Maxima1964: folds
JanisSoprano: raises 740 to 860 and is all-in
tiff_610: folds
kingjames260: calls 830
dtcruiser: raises 735 to 1595 and is all-in
kingjames260: calls 320 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (415) returned to dtcruiser
*** FLOP *** [3s 7d Ts]
*** TURN *** [3s 7d Ts] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [3s 7d Ts 9d] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kingjames260: shows [Qh Ah] (high card Ace)
dtcruiser: shows [Js Jc] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
dtcruiser collected 640 from side pot
JanisSoprano: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
JanisSoprano said, "wow"
dtcruiser said, "dude thats sick"
kingjames260 said, "gg"
dtcruiser collected 2610 from main pot
starsmyle said, "wow"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3250 Main pot 2610. Side pot 640. | Rake 0
Board [3s 7d Ts 9d 8s]
Seat 1: KillerPot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: starsmyle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kingjames260 showed [Qh Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: turkeystudd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dtcruiser showed [Js Jc] and won (3250) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 7: Maxima1964 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: JanisSoprano (small blind) showed [Kd Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: tiff_610 (big blind) folded before FlopPokerStars Game #19336674961: Tournament #94805849, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/08/03 - 19:16:52 (ET)
Table '94805849 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: KillerPot (1480 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: starsmyle (2860 in chips)
Seat 3: kingjames260 (1180 in chips)
Seat 4: turkeystudd (1250 in chips)
Seat 5: dtcruiser (1595 in chips)
Seat 7: Maxima1964 (1365 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: JanisSoprano (860 in chips)
Seat 9: tiff_610 (1410 in chips) is sitting out
JanisSoprano: posts small blind 15
tiff_610: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JanisSoprano [Kd Ks]
KillerPot: folds
starsmyle: folds
kingjames260: calls 30
turkeystudd: folds
dtcruiser: raises 90 to 120
Maxima1964: folds
JanisSoprano: raises 740 to 860 and is all-in
tiff_610: folds
kingjames260: calls 830
dtcruiser: raises 735 to 1595 and is all-in
kingjames260: calls 320 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (415) returned to dtcruiser
*** FLOP *** [3s 7d Ts]
*** TURN *** [3s 7d Ts] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [3s 7d Ts 9d] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kingjames260: shows [Qh Ah] (high card Ace)
dtcruiser: shows [Js Jc] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
dtcruiser collected 640 from side pot
JanisSoprano: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
JanisSoprano said, "wow"
dtcruiser said, "dude thats sick"
kingjames260 said, "gg"
dtcruiser collected 2610 from main pot
starsmyle said, "wow"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3250 Main pot 2610. Side pot 640. | Rake 0
Board [3s 7d Ts 9d 8s]
Seat 1: KillerPot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: starsmyle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kingjames260 showed [Qh Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: turkeystudd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dtcruiser showed [Js Jc] and won (3250) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 7: Maxima1964 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: JanisSoprano (small blind) showed [Kd Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: tiff_610 (big blind) folded before Flop
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That wasnt a bad

beat that was justice for the terrible call you made preflop. It would have been an absolutely horrible beat for him if that hand you had held up...
Umm... okay so you said it was sick and you should've folded,.. but you didn't???... you raised???
I found the flatcall a bit odd as well,... why flat call with A-Q?,.. wouldn't you be wanting to isolate the shrt'r stk. allin?.. why give the initial raiser potential pot odds for making a call here? Were you thinking of folding if he were to raise you back 'allin'? Obviously not cuz you called it too.
Whoa,.. this was some strange play here (again). Might have to just sit out the next week's again.
GL!! (3rd in with J-J??)
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Old 08-04-2008, 01:16 AM
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Well I wouldn't blame you for doing so.

The standard of play in some of these games is attrocious and personally my time would be better spent playing a 1000 person Fulltilt freeroll. I'd be more successful I know that

There is 'one' every week that appears and they are welcome.

I'm trying not to be bitter but better...

Game selection is much more important to me now
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i go with killerpot, but i dont know, pokerstars has allways been bad, personally i call it Jokerstars or RiggedStars, whatever is your choice.
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Old 08-10-2008, 03:05 AM
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Nothing like getting it all in as a 10:1 favorite

PokerStars Game #19292450382: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/08/02 - 05:22:22 (ET)
Table 'Leukothea' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Mitch184 ($16.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Freez78 ($39.80 in chips)
Seat 3: pirates831 ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 4: bluluver ($38.65 in chips)
Seat 5: primaxp ($26.95 in chips)
Seat 6: polaroid83 ($25 in chips)
pirates831: posts small blind $0.10
bluluver: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pirates831 [4d 6s]
primaxp: folds
primaxp leaves the table
polaroid83: raises $0.75 to $1
Mitch184: folds
Freez78: folds
pirates831: calls $0.90
bluluver: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 4c 8h]
pirates831: checks
polaroid83: bets $1.75
pirates831: raises $1.75 to $3.50
polaroid83: raises $20.50 to $24 and is all-in
pirates831: calls $20.50
*** TURN *** [4s 4c 8h] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [4s 4c 8h Js] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pirates831: shows [4d 6s] (three of a kind, Fours)
polaroid83: shows [As Ad] (a full house, Aces full of Fours)
polaroid83 collected $47.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.25 | Rake $2.50
Board [4s 4c 8h Js Ah]
Seat 1: Mitch184 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Freez78 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pirates831 (small blind) showed [4d 6s] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: bluluver (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: primaxp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: polaroid83 showed [As Ad] and won ($47.75) with a full house, Aces full of Fours
What in gods name posessed you to play a hand like 4 6 off suit in the first place ?

What makes it even worse is you called a raise with it...

No offence meant, but playing a hand like 4 6 off suit, you kind of deserve to be beaten...
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:28 AM
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[quote=iveyslovechild;44070]What in gods name posessed you to play a hand like 4 6 off suit in the first place ?

What makes it even worse is you called a raise with it...


Personally I don't see anything wrong with the call from the small blind,.. this is a 'ring game' not tourney-style poker. I wouldn't do it all the time but could be great +EV to make the call occassionally no doubt (for a measely 0.85),.. look at what you could win if you do in fact hit your hand (or even if you don't but feel confident in your abilities to outplay your opponent 'post-flop' and judging by the way your opponent played it, I could see very easily how any decent player would be wanting to call this player from the small blind with something like 4-6o --- his 'shove' is typical 'scared poker play',.. nothing like trying to massage the pot a bit???).

Ring game is quite a bit different from tourney-stlye of play -- alot more marginal calls ie. calling on small blind with 4-6o.. such a great oppurtunity to conceal your hand if you happen to hit. Depending on opponents, table, position, table presence & image, I'll very often (almost always) call off up to 5-6xbb raise with any pkt pr. (especially if I'm 3rd in.. in position). +EV can be HUGE!!!
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