Tilt

[peaches]

. The main difference between a good poker player and your average freeroll/micro player is that they are able to lose with Aces against 23o and don't be affected by it. .

I'd have to disagree with you. This is far from the 'main difference'. If you don't think so, I'd suggest putting in some more time studying the game. There is far, far, far more to the game than meets the eye of the micro player.
Sure PokerMindset is an important part of playing poker but only a part of the big picture.
Question for OP... why keep playing when you feel yourself going on tilt? (unless it's MTT's that you're already playing). You really need to try to gain every possible edge that you can to be beating the tables (and winning with consistency), and it is very important to be in a good frame of mind and to have your ducks in a row prior to sitting down at the tables (even the virtual tables... or should i say 'especially' the virtual tables because it's so easy and convenient to jump into a game at any time).

Solution... work at separating emotions from the game (this includes celebrating big winning hands too). If you feel yourself geting tilted (signs are beginning to play too many hands, chasing too many draws.. calling more than raising and focusing on getting chips/money back from one player (instead of looking to get it from whatever available oppurtunity presents itself). Take a break... go for a walk. Don't play unless you're at your best.
I'm wondering about bankroll management here too?

[Logan]

This is a off topic but just want to say hi to Peaches, long time don't see you in the forum, welcome back

[Bata4]

TILT destroyed me again and i lose everything. How can i stop TILT?

Thats an intresting question.

I had that also, but then I got reading some poker books.
Tilt is very expensive, and can be reduced imho.

We al remember the bad beats, suck outs, and donkey calls...

But we dont remember when we got lucky.
Once you write those things down.. you will see, you get a nice balance, and you learn that you "tilt" someone else to...

Once you have this written down, you have to focus on your good skills. And you know that on the long term you should be the one with the most money on your bankroll.

When Im getting pinned down by a suckout, or bad beat... its frustrating me, but will not tilt me anymore..., I know that I'm playing my best poker, so infact I should becomeing the winner in the long term....

[willie beaman]

Your emotions need to be in check at all times. In order to make money playing poker, you have to know when you are not playing at your best and take a break hen you feel your emotions getting the best of you. When you go on tilt, your play gets affected on is not as crisp.

[timtnt]

When you go on Tilt you are letting your emotions dictate your play in a hand or group of hands, until something changes your emotional state of mind you will most likely continue to play poorly, take a break even if you are in a MTT sit out for several hands (the worst thing that can happen while you are Tilt is to have your monster hand cracked by runners). Everyone who has ever played the game goes on tilt from time to time it is human nature. If you ever find yourself not Tilting a little (feeling no emotion) after a run of crazy beats stop playing the game either you have lost your passion for the game or you have become a cyborg.

I also agree that there is a BR management concern here. If you are losing your entire BR after going on tilt. Pick a % that you are going to lose in a given day, if your BR is $20 Restrict yourself to only losing 10% of that in a given day and stick to it no matter what happens. If you want to continue playing get into some freerolls. Although freerolls might add to your emotional roll coaster ( ultimate donk fest) at least your not losing your money.

Also understand that in poker 50% of the time we are running hot or cold. The key is to maximize your profit when hot and minimize your losses when running cold. The remaining 50% of the time is when you are makin bacon with strong play, patience, and understanding the mathematics of the game. This is the time that seperates the really good players from the average.

[rgchan]

Nothing hurts as much as Building up your Bank Roll by playing solidly for weeks and then losing it in 1 session or a couple of days.You end up kicking your ASS and thinking about all the time you wasted builing up that Stack and then wasting it.
Frost had some good advice about bank roll management.If you lose you BUY-IN by a few bad beats don,t rebuy immediately.Its good to step away and clear your mind.Maybe even buy-in at a lower level table to regroup.
Rg

[spowers454]

It's rough losing your whole bankroll that you worked so hard to build up from nothing and losing it all in one day. I have been there a time or two and as much as it sucked I did learn from it. I learned that there is nothing you can do about it and it's the same way live or online, some days you will run hot others you run ice cold and can't win a hand to save your life. The only thing you can do on days like this is walk away, just hit shut down on the cpu and don't look back. When you started off with your $2 there wasn't much choice and you about had to play all or nothing with it but once you had worked it up you should have nhen gettingever had so much of it at a table. Just stick with the lowest stakes possible playing with $2 and if your running/playing bad that day then walk away and live to play another day. There are still days that I lose more than I should but all the same I still don't lose it all because I know that if I pull myself away I can get it back once I am cooled of and the cards change a bit. The last time that happened to me was at AP quite a while ago but I lost over $500 that day and it all started by flopping top 2 pair, aces and queens, then having the big stack at the table that had $1200 at the table with the max buy-in $200 I think check raise me on a $50 pot going all-in with queen ten, mid pair, then hitting running tens to boat up. It was all down hill from there I was on full tilt, not the site, playing pissed off and watching a ice cold deck killing me but I couldn't walk away and it cost me big. All I kept telling myself was I got the money in good it can't happen again and I just couldn't have a hand hold up so long story short I all but went bust before I quit. leasson learned walk away if your playing good you will get it all back one day.

[eberetta1]

Hey , it was just like walking. You fall down, get up, fall down, get up, repeat.
So, you keep winning freerolls to get back in the game!!! Then I would only enter $1 tourneys, since it seems when you hit $15, you start to go wild. It is bankroll management that you are starting to run into, which is different than playing winning poker.
Also, if i lose 10 percent of my bankroll, I give it up for the rest of that day, because some days there ain't no way in hell that you are gonna be anything but sh_t on.

[Limey777]

I'm certainly not immune to tilt (if there is such a thing) but one thing I try to do is recognize the reason for the tilt so as I can avoid it later on down the road.
I feel that if you can't recognize the circumstances for the tilt to happen then basically you're screwed and should find something else to do. A few examples:-

I rarely play longer than an hour without a break, the reason being is that's about as long as I can go without getting bored and making silly donk calls which I know I shouldn't do but, ah well, you know how it is when you get bored. This causes me to tilt myself which is totally avoidable, hence lots of breaks.

Another thing that "used" to cause tilt (okay it still gets me now and then) is when you have one player that's firing at every pot and just winning every hand. It's sick how good some people run sometimes. I used to try and play them and one afternoon it cost me 50% of my roll. Called the guy down every-time. He was just raising with junk and winning every hand, he nailed another player that day. I tried that strategy and you know what? I kept getting beat by better starting hands, I couldn't believe my eyes . So what I do now is use the little git, let him fire away and let somebody else keep him honest. At the Micro's I don't mind posting blinds and folding if the actions good enough, I like to think of it as he's just there to give my VPP's/FPP's a boost.
Now, one of two things is fixing to happen,
A: Every player on the table except the supervillain leaves or
B: He tops out at 4-5 times his max buy-in and leaves himself. Now if he leaves, alot of the nut players will loosen up and start making desperation calls looking for that 3-4 outer on the river. I consider this time the best for building bankroll (patience is definitely the key). Sometimes you run bad, sometimes you run good, but if you run good right after some miracle donk has loosened the table up, well, "ching ching"
So even though this kind of player may still get to me, it certainly doesn't tilt me like it used to.

Another thing that used to tilt me is the donk caller that called your pot-sized bet on a 9 outer and hit Nothing you can do, but a little research will show that they are horrible players that need a suckout every now and then to keep them interested and make them deposit again as soon as they go broke (again). The other day I sat down, very first hand, long story short, bad beat closely followed by rebuy. By just saying "Oh crap, here we go again" I was able to remain composed and within the hour I'd got it back with interest.

So, I know what the problem is and I find ways to lessen the rage, however I am still slogging away through the micro's and I'm sure that the bigger the stakes the more difficult it will be to restrain myself. I guess I'll have to cross that bridge when/if I get there.

I think it's easy for people to scoff/ridicule people for tilting on 1c/2c (NOT in this thread which I thought was a good read) but I know that I was there, when a $5 loss would cause death threats being issued to the family pets. The more you play, the more you learn and the more you learn to deal with it.