Please help me think through my decision to call w/ AK

[Righton]

Hey everybody,

Thanks for checking in on my post tonight i want to describe a hand that occurred yesterday and ask for anyone/everyone's response.
Please enlighten me with constructive criticism on your thoughts and suggestions.

The hh will be below but let me explain a couple of conditions:

My image was tight/nit for me at this table. PFr 19-20 and 3 bet of about 4-5%
Table avg vpip was +47 vpip average :O, The 2 players that went ALL in with me had
Vpip of 70 and cc of about 60.

History-> I had been there for about 100 hands or close to it def had a good feel for the hands they like to play and how far they would be willing to go with them.
They pretty much called anything that moved even an all in.

Oppt psychology-> This opponent triplequeens experienced a lot of bad beats going from $180 stack to ~$131 in less than 10 minutes
and therefore went from pass fish to super over agg maniac. He would be showing down mid pair hands and betting them or just trying to bet with complete air most of the time
or A high.

*Personally i feel like i made a good decision here and experienced bad variance.
Which is pretty typical in poker, But there is a haunting sight in my mind that this might be a bad play i could continue to make in my future and lose in my future as well.*

I don't want to be penalized for the same mistakes over and over until i go broke for example exactly what happened to me vs the fish with A5 hitting his 5 on river for an epic 3 outer.
I didn't go broke but I did lose a really nice stack i worked over 300 hands to get up $20 so that was hurtful as well all the hard work that turned to turd.

My question to you all is how if anyway would you of run this hand different to
max your value from this fish with a highly ranked and powerful hand for you in top 5% (Any PP TT+ and ANy Ak-AQ both s/os)?

I am suggesting the top 5% because that is my normal 3bet/3bet call if super loose overaggressive opponents starts pushing me around.
IT would be much appreciated to discuss this hand since it has been constantly in the back of my mind for two days now.


Here is the hand it's hard for me to watch so i posted it after my info,

Righton


Stage #C240416006: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2010-11-05 23:19:47 (ET)
Table: POPAYAN ST (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - UGANATION ($50.15 in chips)
Seat 6 - LITEONRGHTON ($57.09 in chips)
Seat 1 - IANMACLEOD ($50 in chips)
Seat 2 - DCOOPER888 ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 3 - TRIPLEQUEENS ($131.22 in chips)
Seat 4 - AP6238 ($57.90 in chips)
LITEONRGHTON - Posts small blind $0.25
IANMACLEOD - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to LITEONRGHTON [Kd Ac]
DCOOPER888 - Raises $1 to $1
TRIPLEQUEENS - Calls $1
AP6238 - Calls $1
UGANATION - Calls $1
LITEONRGHTON - Raises $5.75 to $6
IANMACLEOD - Folds
DCOOPER888 - Calls $5
TRIPLEQUEENS - All-In(Raise) $130.22 to $131.22
AP6238 - Folds
UGANATION - Folds
LITEONRGHTON - All-In $51.09
DCOOPER888 - All-In $16.75
TRIPLEQUEENS - returned ($74.13) : not called
*** FLOP *** [2c 10d 10c]
*** TURN *** [2c 10d 10c] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 10d 10c 7h] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DCOOPER888 - Shows [Ks Qh] (One pair, tens)
TRIPLEQUEENS - Shows [As 5d] (Two Pair, tens and fives)
LITEONRGHTON - Shows [Kd Ac] (One pair, tens)
TRIPLEQUEENS Collects $67.21 from side pot-1
TRIPLEQUEENS Collects $69.22 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($139.43:$70.75,$68.68) | Rake ($3:$1.53,$1.47)
Board [2c 10d 10c 7h 5h]
Seat 1: IANMACLEOD (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: DCOOPER888 HI:lost with One pair, tens [Ks Qh - B:10d,B:10c,P:Ks,P:Qh,B:7h]
Seat 3: TRIPLEQUEENS won Total ($136.43) All-In HI$136.43) with Two Pair, tens and fives [As 5d - B:10d,B:10c,B:5h,P:5d,P:As]
Seat 4: AP6238 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: UGANATION (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: LITEONRGHTON (small blind) HI:lost with One pair, tens [Kd Ac - B:10d,B:10c,P:Ac,P:Kd,B:7h]

[jacks_off4me]

As you may see, your bigslick lost to an unplayable hand.

sure you don't want to make the same mistakes again and again, but when a donk luckboxes a hand there's nothing you can do... cheer up mate

[Poker Orifice]

As you may see, your bigslick lost to an unplayable hand.

sure you don't want to make the same mistakes again and again, but when a donk luckboxes a hand there's nothing you can do... cheer up mate
[/IMG]

I don't get it? Where's the mistake here? I really don't think OP has made any mistakes in this hand.
Villain is tilting,... villain only 'calls' an EP minraise.... can we ever put villain on much of a hand here? Obviously never a premium hand.
Depends if you wanna gamble... doubt you're ever behind by much & with extra deadmoney in pot, even if he's spazzing out with 66-99 here... it's still a profitable call imo.
The other player flats with KQ.. then calls off the rest of their 40-ish bb's? WOW!! What site is this on? Secondly.. I really hope you re-loaded here on this table!!!!! Perfect situation to be sitting down to.

Lastly, if this has been bugging you for a couple of days now (playing hand over in your head, etc.... doubting your play), I'd strongly suggest dropping down in buyin levels. I mean it's normal to actually get it in great & lose a handful of buyins in a session. Alot of players on cash tables tend to play their stack as if they're in a tournament situation. This is always a mistake. It's also not uncommon to take a dozen or two buyin downswing (or worse). If you're playing at a lower buyin level, this stuff won't bug you at all & you'll be able to buyin again (& again) especially when sitting on a prime fishy table like the one you've described (maybe I'm just assuming too much here.... but it just seemed like it cuz of you expressing how this one particular hand went over in your head for a couple of days).

[beanfacekilla]

I think that you just got sucked out, plain and simple. Anyone who is willing to raise all in, preflop, with A-5 off is a stupid donkey, or (like you said), is on super tilt. You did have good cards, and you did get sucked out horribly. I really don't think you did anything wrong, really. But, usually when someone goes on super tilt and is just betting, raising, all in, etc., I usually won't get invloved, they will be broke in a few short minutes if they continue. But, a-k off against a moron like that, heck I probably would have called (if I were playing within my means, not the last of my money). The only thing I have to say is that even when people are on tilt (not this specific time obviously), they can wake up with aces or kings. I have learned that lesson, by calling a super loose player with a-k, or a-q, to see that they had a hand that time. I would just say, no matter what, play the same way every time. Know what you will call and what you won't. Don't call an all in just because the guy who raised it is a maniac, call because you would call every time with this specific hand, these table dynamics, this position, etc. But I would have called that guy too. You have to get your money in good to win big pots, and you did just that. Variance, ugh. Anyways, peace, and good luck in the future against the maniacs.

[jacks_off4me]

Villain is tilting,... villain only 'calls' an EP minraise.... can we ever put villain on much of a hand here? Obviously never a premium hand.

you are right*... and in bottom line: any day i'd go allin pre with a dominating hand.




*Since we have history you and me (as a Russian i never forgive or forget) i no longer read your scrolls

[Assistanc3]

If I have stats on my opponents showing they are fast and loose I would be looking to get my money in with a better hand then ace high. Their Vpip numbers are high enough that tell me I will have many opportunities, so why gamble?

[Righton]

Thank you guys for all of your responses i just need to build more confidence in me making the right decisions even when i hit a bad beat i guess. Much appreciated peoples.


Yours truly,

Righton (no pun)

[Poker Orifice]

*Since we have history you and me (as a Russian i never forgive or forget) i no longer read your scrolls

Suit yourself. Don't read... don't learn. Stay close-minded. It's good for poker.

[Poker Orifice]

If I have stats on my opponents showing they are fast and loose I would be looking to get my money in with a better hand then ace high. Their Vpip numbers are high enough that tell me I will have many opportunities, so why gamble?

What is 'fast'?

They're tilting & getting their stack in bad... & you don't want to call here? It's not a tournament.... it's a cash game. There is a difference.
I beg to differ on this being only an 'A' hi hand. Maybe take a look at Pokerstove some day. (consider this a bonus post.... going above & beyond what I'd planned on)

[Assistanc3]

I beg to differ on this being only an 'A' hi hand.

Playing AK Big Slick

Big Slick is called Big Slick for a reason.
Yes its a monster drawing hand but it is a drawing hand all the same.

But this is the thing - when you haven't seen any cards what have you got really ? An Ace high ... with a King kicker, just about any starting hand could beat it.

But DO NOT go all-in before the flop - remember you've got an Ace high nothing more.