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Old 06-07-2008, 07:18 PM
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better not playing all-in in the early stages of tourney. I even folded AA on first hand, cause there were 2 stupid all-iners in front of me...
usually I'll raise somewhat 3x to 4x if nobody raised before, otherwise I'll call and see the flop. If it's good for me I'll continue to raise, but trying to control size of the flop.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:27 PM
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It all depends on your table to be honest. Often, I'll just go all-in with them if my table is extremely loose or limp-raise all-in if a hyper-aggressive player is playing. One method I definately wouldn't reccommend is limping and allowing others to see a free flop at a more conservative table. Raise 4 to 5 times the big blind so the blinds won't feel obligated to call down for pot odds in that spot. If there is an initial raiser, smooth call if you feel he has a real hand, and don't hesitate to fire a reraise if you think your opponent is trying to make a move preflop.
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:15 PM
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It all depends on your table to be honest. Often, I'll just go all-in with them if my table is extremely loose or limp-raise all-in if a hyper-aggressive player is playing. One method I definately wouldn't reccommend is limping and allowing others to see a free flop at a more conservative table. Raise 4 to 5 times the big blind so the blinds won't feel obligated to call down for pot odds in that spot. If there is an initial raiser, smooth call if you feel he has a real hand, and don't hesitate to fire a reraise if you think your opponent is trying to make a move preflop.

It is a good strategy.

AA is the best starting hand.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:08 PM
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AA KK QQ can any 1 lay it down after the flop . well i cant thats y i always lose haft my stack with high PPs !! gotta hate them but gotta love them haha
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:23 PM
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Default its a situational call

I don't think any one strategy works best here because it is very dependent on styles of play, chip stacks, position, and the flop/turn/river

Your pocket aces might seem supreme, but there are lots of marginal hands that can kill it.

AA against AK,AQ,AJ,A10....your in decent shape for sure

But any two pair is going to kill you unless there's a pair on the board

The same is true for flush and straight draws

Tips...watch for a flush draw on the board and consider connector cards for a str8

If a pair comes up on the board, be wary of full houses when other players don't back off from big bets

If your going to let it go to the river...certainly keep your bets going, and re-raise where applicable. A re-raise is the most aggressive move you can make. If your opponent follows thru...put yourself in their head to try to figure out what they have, and what they think you might have. Obviously they are playing with the idea they can win....unless they are a total donkey, which isn't beyond the realm of possibility either.

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Old 06-15-2008, 09:44 PM
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better not playing all-in in the early stages of tourney. I even folded AA on first hand, cause there were 2 stupid all-iners in front of me...
usually I'll raise somewhat 3x to 4x if nobody raised before, otherwise I'll call and see the flop. If it's good for me I'll continue to raise, but trying to control size of the flop.

Wow...I don't know if I agree with folding AA pre flop. It is the best starting hand in Holdem. You would have anyone dominated. I do not like to put all my chips in against multiple aopponents either but you would have the best of it. Chance to tripple up! TAKE IT! I would do a cart wheel if I had AA and 2 people went all in infront of me. I may not win everytime but I will win MOST of the time.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:45 PM
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Default AA pre flop

I think you have to play it even against multiple opponents. I just lost a tourney today going in with AA against a Q-9 suited and K-3 off they both went all in after i just called BB. Q-9 got flush on the river. Bad beat, but would do it over again, anytime.
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Old 06-16-2008, 01:18 AM
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AA KK QQ can any 1 lay it down after the flop . well i cant thats y i always lose haft my stack with high PPs !! gotta hate them but gotta love them haha
I can. It's why I don't hate the high pockets as much as some other people do. This is why I don't like going all in with them (or almost anything else) preflop. Much better to bet big but not all...reduce the number of players but still get money in the pot and make the right decision post flop.

What I can never lay down is the straight flush draw...even when I know the odds are small I just can't let it go.
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Old 06-16-2008, 01:20 AM
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i go all in everytime with AA. other tactics are stupid
I disagree so much I'm having trouble articulating why. I am practically speechless, but I look forward to seeing you on the felt...
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:29 AM
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I think going all in with AA is worth in pokerrooms like Pokerstars.In B2Bor sth like this it isn't worth and there is better to wait on flop or river.It is worth to go all with this cards in tourneys with big buy-in.In freerolls players will check u with cards like J10 or 88.

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