Learn To Play Poker
Tips
Poker Articles
Reviews
Poker Forums
Tournaments
Poker News
Bonus
Home
Join 4kingpoker

Go Back   Message Boards > Poker Forums and Discussions > Beginners

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-13-2008, 10:13 PM
one pair
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3
lastcome77 is on a distinguished road
Default ace king

Is A/K An overrated hand ??? I lose more than i win with it... I was just wondering...
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-14-2008, 02:40 AM
trips
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 33
loustic is on a distinguished road
Default

AK, it's exactly the same that pocket Queens/Kings/Aces.
When you catch it, you feel strong, so you bet more than usual.
When you win the hand, you won't necessary win a big pot. But when you lose a hand, if you can't lay down these kind of hands, you may lose all your chips with it...
That's why I'm always really carefull when I hold these hands.
And even if it hurts, you may never fall in love with your hand, and let it go if you know you're beaten
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-14-2008, 03:23 AM
two pairs
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 21
TroyC is on a distinguished road
Default

Sorry Loustic but yes AK is over rated;

First off you [you==all poker players] need to remember AK is a drawing hand and not made hand.

AA, KK, & QQ are made hands, they are typically top pair.

Now that doesn't mean AK is a bad hand, however comma it IS a DRAWING hand. AK suited is much better than AKoff as there's nothing worse than 3 clubs on the board and your AcKd. Now do you insta-muck AcKd; no. But you do need to understand the strength of the hand in relation to the flop [and if you don't hit the flop]. AA KK QQ do NOT necessarily need to hit the flop to be good.

I have a tendency to LIMP w/ AKoff and Raise 3x w/ AKsuited [1st 2nd position]; I'll call 3xBB w/ AKoff, and 7 [maybe 9] xbb w/ AKsuited;

But if there are 3 strong players raising & re-raising, I have laid down AK [suited or not] and more times than not been PROFITABLE [which is what it's about]. I've seen AA get re-raised by KK, and KQ suited all-- flop comes 973 rainbow, and mentally patted myself on the back.

Personally I'd rate the hands:::

AA
KK
QQ
AKsuited
JJ
AK off
KQ
TT
KJ
QJ
99

Every player has their own preference, have been burnt by KK [ace magnets], hate JJ, love TT, etc.... But realize someone playing J9 hitting their J is better than your AK and not better than your QQ

hth
TroyC



ahh, just found a link http://www.4kingpoker.com/article/7-..._ak_hands.html


pretty much sums this up... liking 4K better every day

Last edited by TroyC; 03-14-2008 at 03:43 AM. Reason: found a link
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-16-2008, 05:30 PM
donkey's Avatar
straight
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Detroit
Posts: 61
donkey is on a distinguished road
Default

you need to move JJ down to the bottom of the hands you didn't list
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-16-2008, 10:09 PM
flush
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 152
Zach is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TroyC View Post
But realize someone playing J9 hitting their J is better than your AK and not better than your QQ
... and you hitting your K or A is better than their JJ and your QQ.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-17-2008, 10:32 PM
two pairs
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 11
RIK_123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Personally i hate it , ive lost loads with it and when i have JJ and the flop comes down 6 7 2 or something someone always goes allin with AK and hits the turn or river and then says "i put you on nothing"????
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-17-2008, 11:33 PM
villaridge's Avatar
straight
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kansas the land of Oz
Posts: 367
villaridge is on a distinguished road
Default position, position

what the others said, and POSITION. I love to play them in late position after watching a bunch of limpers. in early position it's just a call to me and then watch for raises. good time to fold
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2008, 01:25 PM
grabah's Avatar
two pairs
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 10
grabah is on a distinguished road
Default

does anyone knows is there some nice table with basic preflop odds, like what's the chance you'll get a pair after the flop, what's the chance for a strait and so on?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2008, 10:12 PM
two pairs
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 10
csaba07 is on a distinguished road
Default

I won more hands with KQ than AK.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

 

4kingpoker Leagues
$18,000+ in 2008 League Prizes

US Open League IV

Tues & Thurs - Carbon, Bodog & Cake
$50 freerolls & $1 buy-ins $50 added

Non US League IV

Tues & Thurs - PKR, Titan & Hollywood
$50 freerolls & $1 buy-ins $50 added

Team Play Trophy II

Sunday Team League at Carbon
$30 freerolls & $2 buy-ins $50 added

FullTilt v PokerStars II

Sunday FullTilt & PokerStars League
$50 freerolls & $1 buy-ins $50 added

For league passwords members must have 10+ quality posts in the forum



Popular Poker Rooms

Titan Poker Bonus Review
Titan Poker Review

100% to $500 Titan Bonus
Easy win - Get $20 FREE + more



PKR Poker Bonus
PKR Poker Review

100% to $2000 PKR Bonus
Simply stunning 3D poker site



Carbon Poker Bonus Review
Carbon Review

200% to $500 Carbon Bonus
Good Freeroll's - Merge Network



Bodog Life Poker Bonus Review
Bodog Review

110% up to $500 Bodog Bonus
Easy to Win - 10% INSTANT BONUS



Cake Poker Bonus Review
Cake Poker Review

100% to $500 Cake Bonus
33% Rake Back & Nice Software



HollywoodPoker Bonus Review
Hollywood Review

1000% to $5000 Bonus
Mac Friendly - OnGame Network



FullTilt Poker Bonus Review
FullTilt Review

100% to $600 Full Tilt Bonus
Poker Pro's - Slick & popular

Pokerstars Bonus Review
PokerStars Review

100% to $50 PokerStars Bonus
Biggest tournaments online



Poker Heaven Bonus Review
PokerHeaven Review

200% to 1000 Euro Bonus
Easy Win & Get 30% RakeBack



Pacific Poker Bonus Review
888.com Pacific Review

100% up to $400 bonus
Loosest Beatable Games Online

All 50+ Poker Site Reviews


Featured Bonus

Deposit Bonuses - June 2008

More Poker Bonus Codes


Team Play Trophy II
Carbon Team League


Battle it out in a team against
the rest of the 4kingpoker forum

Every Sunday at 4pm EST
at Carbon (open to US players)

Forum Posting Jackpot
WIN up to $20 FREE


Top 10 posters each month
Win $5-$20 at FullTiltPoker

Post the Most & Win Free Cash
Just for posting in the forum


Poker Newsletter
Tips, News & Games


Subscribe to our monthly Poker Newsletter & get our FREE guide

"27 Secrets to Poker Success"
How to Lose Less & Win More

Your email address:

(We never share you email)


.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
4kingpoker.com is not a poker room operator. Online Poker is not legal in all juristictions around the world, so please ensure that it is legal in the country / area you reside in. 4kingpoker accepts no liability whatsoever for the information contained on this site. All information is for entertainment purposes only.