FTP Multi-Entry Tournaments

[Terminal Frost]

What's your thoughts on FTP's latest twist?

It gives them more fees since they charge a fee for each buyin.

My reaction is yuk. I was going to play the Double Deuce until I saw one guy registered 6 times. Doesn't this just make it nearly impossible for the player not willing to invest $132 into a tourney?

[Assistanc3]

Full Tilt is doing their best to take out skill from the game of poker.

[madjek]

I'm not sure how I feel. On one hand I agree with Assistance, but if you stink, what's the difference if one stinky player buys in 6 times or 6 stinky players each buy in once. Still 6 stinky buyins. One way of looking at it is if you are a skilled player, maybe it takes some of the luck out of it, if you take 5 buyins to middle rounds, you gotta figure not all of em are going to get bad beat so maybe if can help a good player more and really not do much for a bad player. I know I've seen rebuys were guys just keep rebuying and keep giving it all away. Is there really much of a difference. I haven't tried one of these yet but have thought about it. Not sure if I'm a good player or stinky player. Won't be buyin in more 2 or 3 though if I try. Not much different then playing your account then switchin to wife account if you lose, oh yeah, that's not allowed.

[madjek]

played (actually playing) in one of these today. Bought in 3 times, have 2 left, down to 400 players left (out of 1800). Started to wonder what would happen if both entries made it to final table, turns out they merge the 2 together and the 1 gets 10th place. So the best your 2nd entry can do is 10th ($160) and your 3rd can only make it to 19th ($64). I guess if that happens that means your at final table with last entry but I don't know if I like this format or not. Guess if I win a bunch I'll like it.

[Ravensfan929]

I dont really like them but i have to admit i have done 2 entries a couple of times but most of the time i only do the one and take my chances with that. This is as you said just another way for FTP to make more money.

[BluffYou123]

I like the idea of it for the low buyin games cos if you have an edge over the field you can exploit that more by entering mulitple times. It does however make it very hard for an average player to win a larger buyin ME tourney cos alot of the best players will buy in for the max no. of entries.

It's just like playing 4 (or however many you choose) different tourneys of the same buyin really so I think it's a good thing. If you can make the final table with 2 entries you get paid for 9th place and get the 2 stacks merged so you would have a massive advantage if you had 2 ~average stacks at that point. Don't think it happens too often but I have seen it once in a large field tourney already.

[fndrbndr79]

It's better than rush poker, which is basically an effort to take observation and deduction out of poker. I hate even the concept of Rush poker, but have considered playing it just to get the badge, so that maybe I'll get a few more loose calls.

[fndrbndr79]

I entered the Saturday $1 multi-entry last night. Seemed like a reasonably good tourney. I did well, but only made the money on one of my four buy-ins. I made $3.40 off $4. Oh well...It's no better/worse than multitabling multiple tourneys or cash games IMO.

Edit: I did notice that things seemed to move a little more slowly than in some tournaments. I'm thinking the good players are the ones buying in multiple times, not the sucky players.

[Poker Orifice]

Full Tilt is doing their best to take out skill from the game of poker.

What?

I think 'unfortunately' its exactly the Opposite!! You get a ton of Tournament regulars who are multi-entering the juicier tourneys online, making it very difficult for the recreational player to do well in them. In a tournament that might've typically had 1,000entrants you're getting 3,000 entrants & the additional 2,000 is mostly the good players buying in for more entries. How does this 'take the skill out of the game'???

In the med-higher buyin MTTs its actually kind of a bad thing because there will be less & less fish in them as they're facing more & more regs. on the tables (it's gotta be real frustrating). Think about it.... you're on a table with ShaunDeeb & you miraculously KO him (after he's been putting you to the test for an hr.) then get moved to another table awhile later & 'there he is again'!!! but this time he has position on you & a monster stack, lol. Now break that down to all the different buyin levels & you'll understand that you're facing a TON of regs. on the tables.
I fear it's a losing proposition for the recreational player & would force them to get with the flow or fall by the wayside. It basically just puts them in fields of players where instead of say 1/3 of the field are regulars now it's 2/3 to 3/4 of them are regs.(incidentally in mid-higher buyins there's more than 1/3 of the field who are regs., probably closer to 2/3 to3/4 of the field)

Assistanc3... I'm wondering if you're basing your assumption on something like > "now they've got 4 entries so they can gamble it up on some of them to build up monster stacks or bustout early" If so, this is far from truth in my opinion. Even in stuff like $3 or $5-$10 rebuys, I've noticed many regs. who go into the money with sometimes ALL of their entries (or 4/6 or 3/4 of them). Have also seen quite a few of them who've managed to 'merge' stacks on final table in fields of over 3,000entrants (happened in two I was watching my friend play in, a $3rebuy & the $50fifty-fifty (or the 'fifty-hundo' seeing as it was doub.guar. week). Didn't notice any of them playing with 'less skill', pretty much the opposite, more skillful players taking up a larger percentage of the player pool.

[Poker Orifice]

played (actually playing) in one of these today. Bought in 3 times, have 2 left, down to 400 players left (out of 1800). Started to wonder what would happen if both entries made it to final table, turns out they merge the 2 together and the 1 gets 10th place. So the best your 2nd entry can do is 10th ($160) and your 3rd can only make it to 19th ($64). I guess if that happens that means your at final table with last entry but I don't know if I like this format or not. Guess if I win a bunch I'll like it.

If you get two entries to the final table they actually give you '9th' place prize money. It's actually kind of a drag for the player who's two entries merge once hitting the final table. Sure his chips all go over to his other entry 'but' he's actually losing a TON of equity by having the one entry finish in 9th (the chips adding over to the other stack don't relate to an increase in tournament equity compared to if they held the two entries with less chips on each). It's kind of a crappy deal for the player who merges. Not sure how they could rectify that though.