So many tighters at full tilt

[ddt-66]

that site is full have loose and bad play last nite in a 38 player freeroll down to 8 players iwas in 3rd place i had ace 9 in the bb sb raised double she had 44s the flop 998 two dias she bet pot and i moved allin she call runner runner dias she won with the 4 of dias bad play lol

[tjiekebolle]

I call them cowboys !

[beanfacekilla]

Do u think that its hard playing on FTP coz there are a lot of tight players on that site. I have heard much stories about loose-agressive maniacs from USA, Canada and Australia but on fact most of them i have met are weak tighters. They all have Vpip about 10 on 9max. Its hard to find a fish with 30 Vpip for example. Even 20 Vpip is rare. They alike to limp strong cards (that thing i hate most of all). When i play SSS for example i raise AJs from CO and get re raised from guy who limped from UTG+1. What i must do? fold? i wanted to see what he got and re reaised all in. He showed QQ. Sick.... This tighters dont raise AQ from early position and when i raised much with AA they fold it. This all on 0.10-0.25 9 max limit. When i tryed Nl50 and Nl100 SSS i found it more aggressive and loose and asier to play.
What are u doing about average players level at fip?

I don't know what fulltilt you are playing on. All of online poker is filled with a high percentage of friggin idiots who have no clue what they are doing. They are just straight gamblers. Roll the dice, lets see what happens. They will call with a runner runner flush draw on the flop, just to see if they can draw another card of their suit (if they do, they are hooked). They will call all in on a gutshot. Double gutshot, backdoor flush draw, they will bet the farm. A draw is as good as a made hand to these wild animals running with two pairs of scissors through the online poker world.

But, if you play the math of it all, and have the patience, you can reap the benefits of all these "bad players". That is the grind of poker. You make the right decisions, and in the long run, you may profit. But I prefer live play. Online just isn't the same. You can't cash out, and take home a pocket full of hundred dollar bills online (right then, get off the table and have tangible money). I think it may change the way people play a little, that they can't hold the money. Anyways, blah blah I know. Peace.

[Poker Orifice]

I don't know what fulltilt you are playing on. All of online poker is filled with a high percentage of friggin idiots who have no clue what they are doing. They are just straight gamblers. Roll the dice, lets see what happens. They will call with a runner runner flush draw on the flop, just to see if they can draw another card of their suit (if they do, they are hooked). They will call all in on a gutshot. Double gutshot, backdoor flush draw, they will bet the farm. A draw is as good as a made hand to these wild animals running with two pairs of scissors through the online poker world. Often times these 'fish' (once you're playing at 50NL & 100NL+) are often floating you on the flop with their backdoor draws, etc. because a) they're getting decent 'implied' odds & also are picking up pots on the turn when they wiff too. (not just about tryin' to 'hit' their hand). In the micros & super micros for sure a different story.. "Oh.. I got a piece of this.. COME ON FOUR!!!".. & will call down with junk... on a prayer.

But, if you play the math of it all, and have the patience, you can reap the benefits of all these "bad players". That is the grind of poker. You make the right decisions, and in the long run, you may profit. But I prefer live play. Online just isn't the same. You can't cash out, and take home a pocket full of hundred dollar bills online (right then, get off the table and have tangible money) some withdrawl methods are still pretty decent & actually in the past you could have tangible $'s in your pocket very quickly (ie. epassporte... you used to be able to withdrawl from pokersite, ship it to epassporte, then walk down the street to the local 7/11 (or any ATM) pop in your 'epassporte' debit card & voila... presto... instant cash in your hand (I miss epassporte, sigh ). I think it may change the way people play a little, that they can't hold the money. Anyways, blah blah I know. Peace.

Not to be contradictory here with ya (I agree with most of your post actually), 'but' I think it may change how they play in a 'good way'.. because they can quickly & easily reload once they've busted their stack (& soooooo convenient to be able to continually/automatically reload to 100bb's in your stack). Much easier for them to do this than to dig into their pockets & pull out another wad of 'cash'.
I also think (KNOW) that players online are FAR BETTER than your typical live players. A comparison (imo) would be... your decent 10nl players are far better than your average $1/$2 live cash game player,.. and.. 100NL online would be more comparable to $5/$10 live. Sure there are fish & lots of recreational types on the tables... but not nearly as many as all the regs. who are grinding those limits day in day out.

[Poker Orifice]

i usually take advantage of the fact they are playing tight ....use this op to steal blinds and build your chips for the bigger wars later on...on the bubble is usuall the best time to do this type of thing.

THe guy's talking about playing cash tables.... in other words > your comments have nothing to do with what he's referring to????

[Poker Orifice]

that site is full have loose and bad play last nite in a 38 player freeroll down to 8 players iwas in 3rd place i had ace 9 in the bb sb raised double she had 44s the flop 998 two dias she bet pot and i moved allin she call runner runner dias she won with the 4 of dias bad play lol

I'm getting the feeling that this thread has been revived for postcounts perhaps?? (or maybe I'm wrong?).

ddt-66, so you figure "that site is full have loose and bad play" cuz of your experience in a 'freeroll'? Please tell me how that would have any representation of how the players are playing on that site? You've confused me here

[thejudge]

Agreed ...there is no way you can compare peoples play in a freeroll to a buyin game....completely different animal...As we all know freerolls are a lottery most of the time

[beanfacekilla]

Not to be contradictory here with ya (I agree with most of your post actually), 'but' I think it may change how they play in a 'good way'.. because they can quickly & easily reload once they've busted their stack (& soooooo convenient to be able to continually/automatically reload to 100bb's in your stack). Much easier for them to do this than to dig into their pockets & pull out another wad of 'cash'.
I also think (KNOW) that players online are FAR BETTER than your typical live players. A comparison (imo) would be... your decent 10nl players are far better than your average $1/$2 live cash game player,.. and.. 100NL online would be more comparable to $5/$10 live. Sure there are fish & lots of recreational types on the tables... but not nearly as many as all the regs. who are grinding those limits day in day out.

I agree with you PO. Just sometimes you get a rash of these gamblers sucking you out, for days. Live players on $1/$2 are really really bad, as you said. As far as online, the bad players are the ones pumping money in. If they can reload easily, it is better in the long run for good players. I just sometimes think about all the suckouts I have seen and like to type about it. But, I had never really thought about it until you said it, online players are for sure way better than the typical live players. There is also the tracking software, notes, etc. to help the online players. Live is just a much more "pure" form of poker, in my humble opinion. I really don't care for online that much. I have not been playing lately at all. Anyways, peace.

[fndrbndr79]

I think that there's enough variation in the way most people play that observation is more important. I know that many times, I've carefully taken notes on someone who's just spewing cash into every pot. I mean, the guy's trying to lose his lottery winnings one hand at a time on the penny tables. The next week, I see him at the nickel tables and assume that he's re-upped or gotten lucky, only to see him play really tight, solid poker. Maybe he read a book between the two sessions, or maybe he sobered up. Or maybe he was playing the penny tables so he could get the crazy out of his system for a night. Of course, this shakes out if you see the same guy play ten or twenty sessions, and you get a better feel for him, but I'm always wary of statistics like flop % and VPIP. While technically perfectly accurate, they frequently only tell part of the story-my drunk tilter above might, when we map VPIP over individual sessions and plot them on a histogram, have a bimodal distribution with peaks at, say, 20 and 45.