BAD Changes comming your way

[ANDYBEE]

lets get this straight..........

i posted this complaint on the i poker network string because im not happy with the changes..... so if this was not a poker forum but a car forum reviewing the lastes new cars that are coming out .......from ford etc....... you open with

....although i have not played on the ipoker network for a while and as per a brief mention from other post recall finding the lobby a pain in the as*.

so following that thought as im comlaining about the latest up grade about the new VW Golf ..... you seem to be saying although i have never driven the new golf and that i drive a skoda as i have rented a golf not the new on but 6 months ago i did drive one for a week on holidays i cant seem to what your complaining about. Well as your reviewing my complaints having never driven the new golf lets look at what you have to say as you did say

....what can i say i showed great attention to your post and felt the least i could do was give a detailed response.

ill try and give a detailed responce

1 no more mini tables so you cant play 4 tables at once on one screen you now have to reduce the size of the table manually every time

? what u actually mean is u CAN play 4 but u have to reduce urself? also u can have variable sizes which u couldnt have before = +

lets stick with the car thyme..... if i comlain that the new golf now comes with tyers that let all the air out over night but you can manually pump them back up in the morning .... would you say that was an improvement ???? its a total pain and when playing MTTs you have to do it also every time you move tables ..... it does not remember what size table you want ...... so if you are playing 4 MTTS you spend half you time resizeing table missing action on other tables ......remember this is an upgrade not a down grade..... but if you think that is an improvement im sure you can explain how so?

2 make the font for players names half the current size

? u want smaller tables and u complain fonts are to small u still have around 40 percent of ur monitor free on below

yes i complain that the fonts of players name are 2 small ....... but did you actually look at the 2 screen shots i posted ....... did you actually look at the font size of the names of the 2 different screens ..... can you not see that the font size is aprox half the size. yes or no?...... do you think its an improvement/upgrade? i guess you dont multi table mabee you cant but i would normally play 2 tables on the boss network and 2 on the i poker network so my screen would look like this (see ipoker4) so you can see i dont have 40% of the screen spare more like 15%.... you will see that the players names are clear on the old style tables ..... do you still think its an upgrade?

3 make the font for pot size half the size

as above

I would say the same thing ..... look at the ipoker4 pic and compare it to the ipoker1 pic in the old sysem it was clear what the pot size was now its very hard to see ...... again i say do you still think its an upgrade?

4 put all players chips on the table so you cant see whos bet what maybe i am missing a trick altogether on both screen shots u can see what player has bet what amount and the total is in the middle

your missing a trick ..... look at the players in the 11, 12 and 1 o clock position .... those players have there chips on the table and its not clear weather they have bet them or have not ...... in fact a new problem i found today when they have bet some chips ....the chips cover up how many chips they have left as the chips cover up there holding stck ..... i post a screen shot and hilighted the area so you can see look at ipoker5 pic ....do you think thats an upgrade?

5 no more speach bubles so you cant see whos said what

as you have not aswered this one its hard to know your thought but most people cant even see iff anyone has said anything beacuse you have to pres a new putton to bring the chat box up .... the chat at the poker tables is almost none existence now ....would you say that is an upgrade?

6 no option for turning off ativars
please expand...y do u want these off??

im sorry ...i think of my self as a serious poker player i like to see what players have as a chip stack what they have bet ....what the pot size is ..... what notes i have on players these are the things that affect my betting actions....... i am not interested in if the have chosen an ativar of a guy with a red jumper and a berret or an old man with a hawii shirt or or dreass as a mafia don in a white suit ...... just not interested but if you like that kind of thing ..... go to PKR..... im sorry if you think most most poker players think i hate this site because it only has 10 ativars i want an other 20 it got to make me a better player...... do you think its an upgrade?

7 30 new ataviars
please expand...variety is a problem because???

as i say above it you asked 1000 serious poker players if your were to improve your poker site what would it be ........ do you think that top of the list is i want more ativars?
if you say .... i guess you only play on PKR ..... i want to play poker not an arcade game .... do you think its an upgrade to ad 10 flags to the ativars ..... what if your not from the 10 countries how does that make you feel as a costomer?
upgrade or not?

8 2 trees one top right one top left
do u have a allergy to tree's??

as above ask 1000 serious poker players what they want to improve there poker site ..... how many would say i want it made harder to see stacks,bets,pot size names etc but i realy would like to add 2 tress to take up that spacemay be we could have 10 trees and get rid of the poker table altogether if you like trees go to a forest..... upgrade?

Excuse my sarcastic tone but i have treated each point with a clean slate and at a glance this is ridiculous trees am i reading that right?? as for sitting out without players knowing SIMPLY NO if a player leaves the table is should favour other players u shouldnt even have cards as soon as the deal is complete if u r not at a live table

i guess your the one poker player thats writeing to the poker site support asking for trees to be addes to the look of the next upgrade..... as to sitout option .... 1 i guess you dont play live ..... or 2 you havent played full tilt ..... its comming

Also u posted the reply we have not seen your original mails as it is not in there interest to ban anyone let alone someone as loyal as your self i would assume they must of somehow been offended maybe not but makes more sense.

no i just complained to live chat every day for 4 days running ..... i guess thats why they banned me .... i was just trying to point out that the upgrade was wrong .... also as i had
never deposited yet built up a back roll of $100+ made my opinion of less value

Does this mean u cant play betfred or Ipoker network??

there at least 30 ipoker skins i play on aprox 10 so no im just baned from blue square but you can still find me on betfred/cd/titan/tamtam/betfriends/celeb etc

i did like the i poker network and posted this in the hope to get other players that liked the ipoker network would complain as well in the vain hope that we the poker player costomers could get this changed back to the way it was ..... but as i see i see to be the only poker player that doent like the upgrade in fact you al seem to be saying you like it
so i give up

andy bee

[sos_egg_n]

i will try n brief my points

Would i have to drive a golf in order to understand what pumping up a tyre is no - ITS general to all cars as are ur original points.

resizing tables - 4 do u say 4 takes HALF ur time this is a drastic exaggeration it takes approx 2-3 seconds to resize a table x 4 if u worried u missing action u quickly flick across the 4 tabs at the bottom of screen again approx 5 seconds.
And i already stated + point is it can be re-sized to a players preference (as this is not ur preference does not nescasseraly mean its a negative)

Font size - if u cannot see the font of course this is ridiculous.. But it does not matter how big the font is so long as u CAN see it.............i assume u can as u have not stated u cant see it...but in typical fashion have just stated its smaller.

Goal post move alert!! - u screen shots showed 4 tables same site...now ammended to i play 2 on boss networs.....if boss was the same as Betfred u could adjust all accordingly but this was not ur original point.


POT SIZE .. i am defo lost u can clearly see the pot size on the upgrade 6880 altho u have enlarged this one ironically cant u see anywhere on the bottom left one (cd poker) a pot size. im fairly sure there isnt one

WHEN PLAYER BETS....u can see who has bet what although 12 oclock is vering to player on his left but i would not get confused...even so if palyer at 1clock has no cards it aint his bet if he called /raised as he has it is clear.........i did notice before reading that bet is covering players stack this IS NOT AN UPGRADE.


AVATARS - dont interest me but never have and never will bother me.....this does not effect the poker....as before if you cannot see the font as a result of this then yes this is stupid if the font is smaller but still visible who gives a damn.

ask 1000 SERIOUS POKER PLAYERS this is not internet pokers interest they will ask a 1000 players ....serious players obviously manipulates the answer. do agree tho avatars are pointless and if u notice for example on full tilt u can change the facial expression no one ever does cos no one cares. but these do not bother me.


TREES - these do not effect anything it was an empy space now its trees ... also there is a difference between

ME WANTING TREES
ME NOT GIVING A DAMN IF THERE ARE TREES


SIT OUT OPTION....yes i have played live if u leave the table people can see so this is reflected online if u leave the table ur cards should be mucked after the deal as stated before it should work to ur disadvantage if ur not at the table then ur blinds should be nicked.



MY CONCLUSION.
IF u no longer have visibility of players names / pot sizes you should complain. But if they are just smaller this is ridiculous and when u are complaining that u will require seconds to re-adjust ur table size and that trees are in the corner you have crossed the line to no longer be taken seriously