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[Dan Abnormal]

Actually PO Id love to see your part of Canada, since certain things are legal there LOL


FELT GOOD got back to playing legaur again tonight, 6 games, 2 2nd place finishes and 1 3rd place finishes and points for taking a bad beat which is funny since most consider those as good as winning.

April brings about just a points torunament which will be cool since it will have 110 people in it and right now Im ranked 34th so I should get the invite.

Interesting thing happened in one hand and I dont know if what I was told went over my head

Player goes all in, its down to just me and another player, ont he river I try to force the other player off the pot (which the sidepot had ZERO IN IT) (and the main pot had the all in player and us 2 callers). I pushed a big bet and did force the other player out but the all in player ended taking the pot with a flush. I was then told why did I push out the other player since I made the odds better for the all in player. I really didnt think of it like that, but was told the other player may of had the cards to knock out the all in player but in turn my push knocked her out of the pot - OH WELL Ill have to re-read this in the AM and see if it makes sense.

[Dan Abnormal]

AWESOME NIGHT as I took 1st place 2x and 3rd place 1x and got one bounty.

Had one player very irratated at me and I thought my thinking was sound and after we discussed the hand I guess it wasnt. TELL ME WHAT YALL THINK HERE

First I posted blind of 600 which got raised to 1800 and 6 people called so I stayed in the pot for pot ODDS (IS THIS CORRECT) I could make 6 to 1 on my money if I won this hand

I had A3o flop 2s 5s jh at this point the pot is appox 9K and this girl calls (who everyone told me is one of the better players) calls all in of 6.5K and I had built a stack to about 12K so I covered the 6.5K figuring the girl was on a flush draw but I was on a straigh draw. SO AT THIS POINT I have 2 card to hit one so isnt that like either 30% or 17% chance of me making my draw. BUt I have only 3 outs. as opposed to the girl who has like maybe 8 or more (Im doing this quick so I might be wrong) well she flips over AJs so she needed 1 card for a nut flush. WELL I hit my 4 on the river and took the pot down. The girl goes that was a terrible call. and some I guy Im discussing the hand is with is telling me there is no way I should ever of made that call because I was crushed. I say well I had this % to hit my draw and she hadnt made her hand yet either. WELL the consenes was since this girl bet such a big post flop bet that was insane for me to make this call. MY thinking was while I had less % of making my draw I still had the chance but PEOPLE SET ME STRAIGHT and any info on this would be great BBTW I WAS IP but in my mind the call wasnt that bad but I seem to be the only one to think so

[madjek]

AWESOME NIGHT as I took 1st place 2x and 3rd place 1x and got one bounty.

Had one player very irratated at me and I thought my thinking was sound and after we discussed the hand I guess it wasnt. TELL ME WHAT YALL THINK HERE

First I posted blind of 600 which got raised to 1800 and 6 people called so I stayed in the pot for pot ODDS (IS THIS CORRECT) I could make 6 to 1 on my money if I won this hand

I had A3o flop 2s 5s jh at this point the pot is appox 9K and this girl calls (who everyone told me is one of the better players) calls all in of 6.5K and I had built a stack to about 12K so I covered the 6.5K figuring the girl was on a flush draw but I was on a straigh draw. SO AT THIS POINT I have 2 card to hit one so isnt that like either 30% or 17% chance of me making my draw. BUt I have only 3 outs. as opposed to the girl who has like maybe 8 or more (Im doing this quick so I might be wrong) well she flips over AJs so she needed 1 card for a nut flush. WELL I hit my 4 on the river and took the pot down. The girl goes that was a terrible call. and some I guy Im discussing the hand is with is telling me there is no way I should ever of made that call because I was crushed. I say well I had this % to hit my draw and she hadnt made her hand yet either. WELL the consenes was since this girl bet such a big post flop bet that was insane for me to make this call. MY thinking was while I had less % of making my draw I still had the chance but PEOPLE SET ME STRAIGHT and any info on this would be great BBTW I WAS IP but in my mind the call wasnt that bad but I seem to be the only one to think so

I have to agree with the consensus on this one Dan, 3 outs is about 12%, or approx 1:8, so you lose 6.5k 7 times (45.5k) to win 15.5k once (15.5k), not real good pot odds. Now if you thought you were ahead and had a read that you felt strongly she was just on a draw and your A was good, then you were 65%, then I'd say it was ok, but didn't sound like that was the case.

[Dan Abnormal]

Yea I just gotta get things right in my head about should I even be in pots just cause a bunch of others are. PO put up a great quote somewhere, its just everyone you play with has different ideas of smart plays and the way odds are that it all starts over lapping,

I see know that call was no good, but I got myself in a pot to make 6x my money and then had a gut shot and felt why did I get in the pot if I wasnt going to see it through and let myself get pushed off. Like I said if we both missed it would of been ace high but also Id rather had the gut shot then have the board hit an ace with a 3 kicker. Im just rambling, I shouldnt of been in this pot, but I had it my head hey 6 people are in, thats 6 to 1 on my money but then what??? Like some or saying I may be putting way too much thought in this and its just making me make bad calls

[Poker Orifice]

Yea I just gotta get things right in my head about should I even be in pots just cause a bunch of others are. PO put up a great quote somewhere, its just everyone you play with has different ideas of smart plays and the way odds are that it all starts over lapping,

I see know that call was no good, but I got myself in a pot to make 6x my money and then had a gut shot and felt why did I get in the pot if I wasnt going to see it through and let myself get pushed off. Like I said if we both missed it would of been ace high but also Id rather had the gut shot then have the board hit an ace with a 3 kicker. Im just rambling, I shouldnt of been in this pot, but I had it my head hey 6 people are in, thats 6 to 1 on my money but then what??? Like some or saying I may be putting way too much thought in this and its just making me make bad calls

I'd actually only read the first part of that hand DanAbs.. the preflop part. I didn't see where you'd called postflop when EP shoves ~2/3 pot & you make the call with the gutterball. You see the thing is, they're shoving into a multiway pot (6players... or was it even 7?) so you gotta figure them for a strong hand here.(& sure enough it is... they don't 'need' 8outs or whatever.. they already have TPTK "AND" they're drawing to the nuts.. the nutflush. THeir hand is HUGE Strong... as it should be & we should assume it would be if they're shoving into a multiway pot here in this spot.
Your Ace is no good neither is your 3... you're drawing to a measely 4outs. A gutterball is not a hand you want to be calling off over half of your stack with postflop (BUT.. the way to avoid this spot.. (which by the way is a super easy spot to fold in) is to just FOLD it preflop in the first place. Try to focus the thinking on 'maintaining' your stack in tournaments.
Hands I'd call with pre there would be any pp (as long as stacks were deep enough) & maybe 98s, JTs (or something of that nature).. but it depends on the size of the blinds (It seems really weird that sooooo many players had 'called' there preflop at a point in the tourney that doesn't seem like it's near the start.. 'real odd' for sure). Typically once blinds are up there I'm more often 'folding' or I'm raising (In this hand here, if you held something like AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK, AQs with the amount already in the pot I"m probably shoving it allin here (and maybe you'd get called by someone who'd raised in EP with their AJ which would be great as you'd have them dominated & would be looking to pick up a ton of dead money in the pot. If they all folded to the shove.. that'd be just fine too).