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    I think that players who enter rebuys with expectations of playing them like a freezeout will almost always not like them. By playing the one bullet approach, you're actually putting yourself at a huge disadvantage in them. One needs to understand that rebuy tournaments are basically deepstack tourneys that begin once the rebuy period is done.. BUT... one also needs to understand the means behind the madness during the rebuy period. Object during rebuy period is to get yourself a stack which is approx. 4x the size of inital buyin (ie. in a typical 1500 starting chip tourney, you want to be sitting with around 5,500+ chips for after rebuy period is over... preferably more than that).

    Most of the better rebuy players are well prepared to rebuy 5x during the rebuy period (or whatever they feel will still be a potentially profitable venture). THing is.. in a rebuy tourney you're generally sitting on the same table throughout the rebuy period.. so if you happen to double a few of them up, your chips are still sitting there for you to grab back & build up your stack with (Daniel Negreanu had an extreme example of this.. I forget how many rebuys he made... but it was TONS... he felt his 'advantage' was great enough that the chips would all be coming back to him anyways before the rebuy period was finished... then he'd have a huge stack to carry into the rest of the tourney).

    I know a few players who regularly run deep in the rebuys and each of these players is always prepared to rebuy a bunch of times. Sure there are players who are gambling a bit foolishly during the rebuy period & sometimes this is a good image to portray (ie. trying to get it in with a suited Ace... then when you do pick up a monster and play it the same way, you might just get paid off hugely, etc. etc.). One guy I know took first in a decent buyin rebuy and I asked him, "how many times did you rebuy". His answer, " 'Only' seven times".... 'only'??..... seemed to work well for him.

    As I mentioned above in one of my posts on this thread.... I've watched some training vids. for rebuy tourneys by online pros, listening to them describing their thought processes during the rebuy period and have to say it really opened my eyes. There's alot more to it than at first meets the eye.

    Let's say a person is considering entering a $3 rebuy. It might be better to think of it as entering a $12 or $15 deepstacked tourney with an interesting twist in the first hour... an hour that one should familiarize themselves with if they're hoping to place well in it.

    I'm not saying that the one bullet approach won't work well for some players, just saying don't have expectations of a freezeout while playing a rebuy and know that you're placing yourself at a disadvantage by not being open to rebuying yourself.
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    Another nice post, Poker Orifice. After your previous suggestion I went off around the internet researching rebuy strategies, and it is interesting just how many different strategies are available, even though they tend to agree on a couple of major points (rebuy immediately and always take the add-on). I feel that this knowledge has in turn given me a more balanced outlook on how to play other types of tournament, too. Thanks!
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    nice thread, personally i prefer rebuy at the beggining of the tournament, and i waiting for good hands finding double my stack, usually to a max of 4 rebuys, plus addon at the end of first break

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker Orifice View Post
    Daniel Negreanu had an extreme example of this.. I forget how many rebuys he made... but it was TONS... he felt his 'advantage' was great enough that the chips would all be coming back to him anyways before the rebuy period was finished... then he'd have a huge stack to carry into the rest of the tourney.

    I'm not saying that the one bullet approach won't work well for some players, just saying don't have expectations of a freezeout while playing a rebuy and know that you're placing yourself at a disadvantage by not being open to rebuying yourself.
    Great advice. It really is just knowing what you're getting into. However, I do know what I'm getting into and I still dont have to like it lol. I just prefer the golden gun approach ( i think thats what the old Bond game was called when it was 1 shot to kill). I do enjoy the challenge of playing a big rebuy with one bullet. The fact is... people are playin "knowing" they can rebuy so they give their chips away. Great post.

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    Usually I dont use the rebuys .... Only 2xs per tournies is a great rule to follow... If you dont increase your stack in that 1st hour ...it wasnt meant 2 be.... and always do the addons=best value usually for your buck
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    When I play rebuys I normally go in with the intention of spending 3-4 times the buy in price. $5 rebuy tourney I will commit $20 as I plan to play a lot more hands in the rebuy hour in the hope to double up. I will always rebuy at the start of the tourney and I will always Add-on at the break no matter what my stack size is. This seems to work for me well.

    It becomes difficult when you have won a sub satellite to a big dollar rebuy satellite and you don't have the cash to rebuy or add on. It's a very frustrating hour and I am shortstacked b4 the game even begins. Example was the sub satellite to the 2.5million event on Titan poker that I won worth $165. it was a $165 rebuy satty to the main event.

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    There are also some tournaments which are sort of a hybrid, in the sense that they only allow one rebuy and one add-on, and these tend not to be quite so much of a donkfest. PokerStars do a $22 1 rebuy 1 add-on affair which starts at 7:15pm UK time (2:15pm EST), and somebody I know has had some success playing in these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LombardiStix View Post
    Great advice. It really is just knowing what you're getting into. However, I do know what I'm getting into and I still dont have to like it lol. I just prefer the golden gun approach ( i think thats what the old Bond game was called when it was 1 shot to kill). I do enjoy the challenge of playing a big rebuy with one bullet. The fact is... people are playin "knowing" they can rebuy so they give their chips away. Great post.

    Yeah, I read about him doing that. Apparently, he felt it was a good strategy because even though he rebought about 40 times, all those chips at the table eventually came back to him, and he was able to dominate the other tables as the tourny went on.

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