razz

[dobedo789]

that was very informative. thank you for your insight. and always always always fold a23. but seriously HAHAHAHAHAHAH.

[lewis010]

i hate razz. this is no poker . in poker the best hand wons or maybe a combination beetween the best and the worst. but in my opinion razz socks

[cgdub]

I agree with fuzzy, if you get anything higher than an 8 your prob not going to win

[Zach]

Originally Posted by lewis010

i hate razz. this is no poker . in poker the best hand wons or maybe a combination beetween the best and the worst. but in my opinion razz socks

The worst hand never wins in poker.

Poker is a generic name for a group of card games. Each game has its own rules and some have different hand rankings than others.

47o is an awesome first two cards ... if you are playing black jack. Different games have different values to the cards.

To win at Razz consistently you have to actually play smart always.

You can not catch a miracle card in Razz that will turn a starting hand of KKK into something worthwhile.

[rlg476]

most of the major sites offer razz. It is fun to play, I recommend playing for fun money before doing real money games.

[pothole]

Originally Posted by wesrman

Whats complicated about it????
Lowest 5 cards win....
Its so easy a monkey could do it..
lol..
thats a joke im not calling u a monkey...
Heres the rules from pokerstars...
I suggest u give it a chance...

Razz (7 card stud low) is a poker game in which the low poker hand wins the pot at showdown. In razz poker, players are dealt seven cards throughout the course of the hand, but only the best five-card hand possible for each player is used to determine the winner. Note that unlike seven card stud hi-lo or Omaha hi-lo, there is no "eight or better" requirement to win the pot in razz.
In razz, straights and flushes do not count against the "lowness" of a hand, and aces are low, so the best possible hand is a "wheel": 5, 4, 3, 2, A. The following razz hands are ranked from least powerful (#1, will rarely win the pot) to most powerful (#12, the nuts):

1. 5, 5, 5, 3, 2
2. K, K, 4, 3, 2
3. 2, 2, 7, 6, 5
4. A, A, T, 9, 8
5. K, Q, J, T, 9
6. K, Q, J, T, 7
7. 9, 8, 7, 6, 5
8. 9, 7, 6, 5, 3
9. 9, 7, 6, 5, A
10. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2
11. 6, 4, 3, 2, A
12. 5, 4, 3, 2, A

Rules for Playing Razz

Before a game of razz begins play, all players ante a nominal amount (see poker limits for the exact ante amounts). Each player is dealt two hidden hole cards and one exposed card. The player with the highest exposed card is the "bring-in", and is forced to make a wager of either a half a small bet or a full small bet (for example, either $1 or $2 in a $2/$4 razz game). Action continues clockwise around the poker table until betting is complete for the round.
Rule Note: For the purposes of determining the bring-in in razz, ties in card rank are broken by suit, with the order being spades, hearts, diamonds and clubs (in descending order). So if the queen of hearts and queen of diamonds are visible at the beginning of the hand, and a queen is the highest card, then the queen of hearts would have the bring-in.
Each player now receives an exposed card, called "Fourth Street". The first player to act is the individual whose exposed stud cards have the lowest poker value (ignoring straights and flushes). By rule, this player may either check or bet. The bet will be a small bet ($2 in a $2/$4 game).
Each player now receives another exposed card, called "Fifth Street". Again by rule, the first player to act is the individual whose exposed poker hand have the lowest poker value (ignoring straights and flushes).
Rule Note: Starting on Fifth Street and for the rest of the hand, all bets are in big bet increments ($4 in a $2/$4 game).
Each player now receives another exposed card, called "Sixth Street". Again, the first player to act is the individual whose exposed cards have the lowest poker value.
Each player now receives a seventh and final card (hence the name 7 card stud), which is dealt face-down and known only to the player to whom the card is dealt. The first player to act is the individual whose exposed cards have the lowest poker value.
If there is more than one remaining player when the final betting round is complete in razz, the last bettor or raiser shows his or her cards. If there was no bet on the final round, the player whose exposed cards have the lowest poker value shows his or her cards first.
Showdown - Determining the Winner

The player with the best five-card razz hand wins the pot. Remember that (unlike 7 card stud hi-lo and Omaha hi-lo), there is no "qualifier"; the hand with the best value in razz order wins the entire pot. After the pot is awarded to the best hand, a new game of razz is ready to be played.
If two or more hands have the same value, the pot is equally split among them. There is no precedence of suit for the purposes of awarding the pot.
If you are familiar with stud poker, the most popular being seven card stud, then you should be able to pick up razz fairly quickly. If you are unfamiliar with stud poker or seven card stud, we recommend you try that poker game out first to get a feel for how the game is played.

I'm not surprised people are losing money playing RAZZ if they read this junk put out by a Poker Stars staffer. The hand rankings shown here are pure garbage and totally misleading. Razz is a great game that takes a lot of concentration to be a winning player, you have to remember what cards have been folded and close attention to what low cards are already out. It is also a game that bluffs win a lot of pots by 5th street showing 3 low cards. Many good Razz players clean up playing HORSE too because not many players are confident in the RAZZ portion of the game, personaly I suck at Stud h/l so I play only real primo cards in this section of HORSE. For the uninitiated, the top 10 ranked hands in RAZZ are as follows.

A2345
A2346
A2356
A2456
A3456
23456
A2347
A2357
A2457
A3457

[Zach]

Originally Posted by pothole

I'm not surprised people are losing money playing RAZZ if they read this junk put out by a Poker Stars staffer. The hand rankings shown here are pure garbage and totally misleading.

What exactly is misleading about their hand rankings?

They did not say those where the top ten hands - they are showing a wide range of hands so people can get an idea of how the hands rank.

ie, this is an extremely important thing for people to realize. And yes - it does in rare cases come into play.

1. 2, 2, 7, 6, 5
2. A, A, T, 9, 8

If people are reading that, then jumping into a money game of razz instantly - thats their problem. The only thing that little overview is intended to do is give one an idea of how the game is played.

Which it does.

[MitchellC]

One of the many interesting things about Razz is that players who know the probabilities in no-limit play, don't have a clue in Razz.

For example, if you play no limit you know heads up all-in, a pocket pair is a slight favorite versus A-K.

But, if you have (A-2) 5 and your opponent has a strong hand with a 6 showing, do you know if you are ahead and by how much? And, what about the cards on the board--how does that effect the probabilities?

One of the reasons players get frustrated with Razz is they think they are ahead, when they are not.
Of course, another thing that gets players frustrated is brick-brick-brick after 4 cards to a wheel.

Overall, it's a good game to understand since so many of your opponents don't have a clue.

[pothole]

If you have A25 and your opponent is showing a 6 before 4th street your way ahead and should cap the betting.

[BostonRobber]

Maybe but A 2 5 is only three cards out of five to make the hand. One could catch rocks the rest of the way. For me Razz teaches patience as there is often an immediate price to be paid for a prebet