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Old 04-23-2008, 11:18 PM
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Hi all I am going to be in a Live Omaha high tournament £50.00+£5 buy-in and to be honest I have no real idea how to play it other than having a quick speed read at Super System Can any one help please!

thanks in advance

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Old 04-24-2008, 09:50 AM
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Ill teach you some things i guess : .



Here's the deal , we all play primium hands, we start with jj's suited with a split and wired connector , the other hands are not even worth going in in the pot , unless your table is very loose ..

But i suggest you play these hands :
Starting with the highest order :

AAKK ( or simular with other suits )
KKQQ
QQJJ
JJ1010

These hands you play no matter what happens preflop , unless pushed all in dont think you got a monster , you want to play it like it's pot limit, keep the pot small before seing the flop, let them be the aggresor .

For the other hands you'll play :

Any wired AA ( meaning , AA33 )
Any suited AA thats connected !!! ( meaning , AA46 )
Any wired KK
Any suited thats connected !!! KK
Any higher pair then 88 that is wired , suited , or connected .
In that combination you would be fine .

( so not any aces with rag , believe me you only have aces then , it's hard to play aces in omaha if you dont have any back up cards or you flop nothing )

Oh and if you do flop nothing and only have aces, and somebody comes out betting , believe me , fold is a good thing in omaha .

If you flop nothing , but got a high pair in your hand, with no draws to a straight or flush , i would suggest laying it down if there has been betting..

If you flop two pair , try to keep the pot small , since this is a danger hand ,you lose usually to higher two pairs , or sets , straights , flushes and so on , if you do flop two pair and you got straight draw or flush draw ( high one , you can manage to stay in ) , if you got multiple two pairs , dont lay it down aswell till you see river, i dont say call a all in , keep the pot small . till the river . ( Multiple 2 [pair ? ? ) what >> lol that is like you got

Q7910 ( small pot entered , limped in .. ) called a small raise is fine , these hands i usually stay away from unless you feel the table is very loose this can be a good hand then , and the flop is 10Q7 . now you got two pair Queens and tens , or you got two pair Queens and 7vens or two pair 10's and 7'vens, either way if one of those cards come out again , you'll have a full house , which is a strong hand in omaha , and hold em ofcourse .. )


Keep the pot small , you dont want to be the aggresor pre flop , on the flop make your decessions,
Be carefull for if you do have a set, these hands you want to play till the river , but still keep the pots avarage, if the board pairs , still dont go over your head, if he has a higher set , or the quads you'll lose allot , so value it like if the pot is 450 , bet 300 , look out if they are not out for the flush ,, straight ,, full house, or higher ..

By keeping the pot small , and only calling there bets , you would do fine .


Flopping a joint , full house, flush , highest straight possible.
Which one do you think you may play aggresive ?
( Drawing to the joint ) Play for sure till river .
How do you play here ?

For this i cant suggest anything then to look how the table plays , are they loose , tight , tight aggresive , calling stations and so on , you'll have to adjust your style to it .


For Quads, and higher ... you wont need advice , go for it ! SLOW PLAY !

I think i have a other omaha hi blog posted about the hand sessions i played in omaha hi , pot limit . You can look at it and see which hands i played .. allot of them are kept out , but those where small pots ..
I got 3 sessions posted on the website you can check it out .


Good luck at the tournament bro !

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Old 04-24-2008, 11:53 AM
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Play with your gut! Watch for a lil while and see how others are playing.
(Are they betting high on a pair, betting high on a good hand, or just to get people to fold.....)
Just pretend you are playing 7 card stud, but YOU get to choose which 2 of the 4 pocket cards are going to play with. Good Luck! Let us know how you did!
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:40 PM
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Ill teach you some things i guess : .



Here's the deal , we all play primium hands, we start with jj's suited with a split and wired connector , the other hands are not even worth going in in the pot , unless your table is very loose ..

But i suggest you play these hands :
Starting with the highest order :

AAKK ( or simular with other suits )
KKQQ
QQJJ
JJ1010

These hands you play no matter what happens preflop , unless pushed all in dont think you got a monster , you want to play it like it's pot limit, keep the pot small before seing the flop, let them be the aggresor .

For the other hands you'll play :

Any wired AA ( meaning , AA33 )
Any suited AA thats connected !!! ( meaning , AA46 )
Any wired KK
Any suited thats connected !!! KK
Any higher pair then 88 that is wired , suited , or connected .
In that combination you would be fine .

( so not any aces with rag , believe me you only have aces then , it's hard to play aces in omaha if you dont have any back up cards or you flop nothing )

Oh and if you do flop nothing and only have aces, and somebody comes out betting , believe me , fold is a good thing in omaha .

If you flop nothing , but got a high pair in your hand, with no draws to a straight or flush , i would suggest laying it down if there has been betting..

If you flop two pair , try to keep the pot small , since this is a danger hand ,you lose usually to higher two pairs , or sets , straights , flushes and so on , if you do flop two pair and you got straight draw or flush draw ( high one , you can manage to stay in ) , if you got multiple two pairs , dont lay it down aswell till you see river, i dont say call a all in , keep the pot small . till the river . ( Multiple 2 [pair ? ? ) what >> lol that is like you got

Q7910 ( small pot entered , limped in .. ) called a small raise is fine , these hands i usually stay away from unless you feel the table is very loose this can be a good hand then , and the flop is 10Q7 . now you got two pair Queens and tens , or you got two pair Queens and 7vens or two pair 10's and 7'vens, either way if one of those cards come out again , you'll have a full house , which is a strong hand in omaha , and hold em ofcourse .. )


Keep the pot small , you dont want to be the aggresor pre flop , on the flop make your decessions,
Be carefull for if you do have a set, these hands you want to play till the river , but still keep the pots avarage, if the board pairs , still dont go over your head, if he has a higher set , or the quads you'll lose allot , so value it like if the pot is 450 , bet 300 , look out if they are not out for the flush ,, straight ,, full house, or higher ..

By keeping the pot small , and only calling there bets , you would do fine .


Flopping a joint , full house, flush , highest straight possible.
Which one do you think you may play aggresive ?
( Drawing to the joint ) Play for sure till river .
How do you play here ?

For this i cant suggest anything then to look how the table plays , are they loose , tight , tight aggresive , calling stations and so on , you'll have to adjust your style to it .


For Quads, and higher ... you wont need advice , go for it ! SLOW PLAY !

I think i have a other omaha hi blog posted about the hand sessions i played in omaha hi , pot limit . You can look at it and see which hands i played .. allot of them are kept out , but those where small pots ..
I got 3 sessions posted on the website you can check it out .


Good luck at the tournament bro !

JCTM1988
A Very Good Post JC IMHO

Cracker I am pleased you are playing live, if you said this was Hi/lO I would have said you where nuts with the experance you said you have, Omaha Hi you have a chance, I cant realy add to JC post, all I can say is TAKE YOUR TIME and dont go mad betting into dry pots in early Position! Stay Cool
Good Luck, If theres more than 70 players in the tourny give me a shout I play it If I am near to it

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Old 04-27-2008, 08:30 PM
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Thanks Guys I ended up 32 out of 102, didnt get anything, I really enjoyed it I play another one soon I went out with AAQJ
FLOP 759 SHE HAD [OTHER PLAYER] 68
TURN KRIVER 2

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Old 04-28-2008, 12:24 PM
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Thanks Guys I ended up 32 out of 102, didnt get anything, I really enjoyed it I play another one soon I went out with AAQJ
FLOP 759 SHE HAD [OTHER PLAYER] 68
TURN KRIVER 2

Well Done I dont think you where going to get her off that flop!( did you see her other pocket cards?)

Cracker do you play Stud?

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Old 04-28-2008, 07:54 PM
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Sorry I missed this in time, but anyone else in this situation should practice a lot. Good players know they might have to throw out a straight if there's a flush draw out there. In Omaha, flushes and full houses are very common, so don't overvalue your pocket Aces!

If you have a Badugi hand (4 different suits) you are in trouble, play extra cautious with the high cards in this situation.
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:04 PM
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Post Used advice ?

Great to hear you atleast finished 32 , to bad you didnt win anything , did you go all in with the aa xx ?? , if so you didnt read my post correctly

It was connected only , you had 1 suit spades , just the aces and a rag jq , why is it rag jq ? why isnt it AQ or AJ ? cause you rather want to use the 2 aces together... which gives you the option to use jack or the queen if the aces dont come correctly , nor the suit..
And calling a all in with that hand doesnt mean your going to win cause you got aces in your hand , hard to explain why ... but my previous post most make sence i guess,


For the other time , if your going to play it again , try to stick to the hands i explained in the previous post , and : no call with aa raged , you can still lose with AKAK which probally is the best hand to start with , bouth suited . But if the flop comes down like you said , you only have aces , or kings and your opponent has the joint straight .


Hope this post makes my previous post more clear about how to play it.

Good luck the other time !


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Old 04-28-2008, 09:11 PM
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A Very Good Post JC IMHO

Cracker I am pleased you are playing live, if you said this was Hi/lO I would have said you where nuts with the experance you said you have, Omaha Hi you have a chance, I cant realy add to JC post, all I can say is TAKE YOUR TIME and dont go mad betting into dry pots in early Position! Stay Cool
Good Luck, If theres more than 70 players in the tourny give me a shout I play it If I am near to it

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Thanks allot Gypsy , but i forgot to add my post i sended before this , to bad i didnt do this before he went playing , but for the next time i hope he does better .

Time to go work, haha , laterz.



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Old 04-29-2008, 12:18 AM
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Congrats! Not a win but very good for 1st run. Hang in there and don't give up! Omaha is actually my favorite games.

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