multi tabling - whats ur optimum

[sos_egg_n]

Hi all,
have started back to basics and am playing less tables than i normally do having started with single table turbo tournies on pokerstars.
This time i am going to discipline myself and play many hours with just 4 tables and will then add more tables to find where my peak is profit wise before moving up stakes as i am tragically playing 1.75 with a ridiculous 25 c rake. What i would like to know is has anyone already done this and worked out what amount of tables is most profitable as what i notice early doors is i must previously of been so neglegent when it comes to the money end of a game as when playing 12 tables + u are playing more hands at this point and must miss many detail.


Any advice welcome

Rgds

Sos

[Poker Orifice]

If you don't have history on players OR PT3 or HEM then it's going to be difficult to have many player reads... but in the micro turbos you won't need many anyways (just knowing who the regs. are will be enough).
I use 'TournamentShark' so I'm knowing # of games played & whether or not they're a winning player. Typically if they're a winning reg. they're playing a TAG type game.. if they're losing regularly.. could be a # of reasons but most likely in micro stakes sng's its because they're the way over aggro Potbetting spewy type donks (the guys who are donkbetting (leading out from out of pos., ie. in SB or BB).. for POT bets on flops when they've hit MidPr.).... OR they're loose calling stations..> limping in tons, spewing off chips & not considering preserving their stack size so they'll have fold equity or to just do so so that when they do hit a big hand they can maz the payoff on it (calling w/o odds, flatting large % of their stacks preflop in spots where they should be shoving or folding).. OR they're weak/tight/pass... playing fit or fold poker.. and when they've got big.. they're betting big... if not.. check/fold.

I guess what I'm saying is... it doesn't take alot to play these games... but obv. picking up some reads will be beneficial. As far as the optimal number to play where you're maximizing an hourly rate (in other words.. how many table can you play at before your ROI drops considerably to where it's no longer profitable to be playing more tables.. but instead play less tables & win more often). Answer.. i don't know, lol.. 'it depends'... it depends on how solid your shove/fold late play game is. If you've got a good understanding of ICM & have a decent shove/fold game (bubble play).. then keep adding until it doesn't feel comfortable.

[tking888]

sounds like good advice, i'll take it.

[Logan]

PO already give you great advise, some that can add is why not go to Fulltilt instead?, you are playing the $1.50+$0.25 in Stars , i think is better to go to fulltilt and try the $2.00+$0.25, if going to multitable rake is a huge factor.

About number of tables i don´t think some one could answer that better than you, is different for everyone, a way to see true numbers is with a tracker, that way can compare when start to be less profitable for you.

A good advice is to not open all your tables at the same time, try to have some time between them, 15 minutes at least, when blinds get high if you get all your tables at the same time will have a hard time to make good decisions with shorter time, is better that blinds are low in some of them to can sitout if you get HU or if need to take time for a decision, but you mention playing 12 or more before so you should be aware of this already.

[Poker Orifice]

SNG's I'll usually start 2 at a time, then as Logan says above, start up a couple more a little while later. It can be tough going if you get deep in a few at the same time & might result in a couple of spots where you'll be rushed to make a decision with tourney life on the line.
These days I usually play MTTs & when doing so I'll often start off firing 4 of them up at once but with MTT play it's pretty slow going in early levels so there's lots of time to get settled in.

[sos_egg_n]

cheers all,
Me and player notes has never happened to be honest to often i get stung from my educated play backfiring. as for rake and moving to fulltilt i told them how i would never return to there site and hope to stand by that BUT i am only using these stakes at the mo to see how many tables i feel best with and profit best which is a long process and i want to get in around 180 games or so to get an accurate read but hope to move up to 3 dollar soon enough and then to 6 where rake is less that 10 percent. Starting up games a few minutes apart sounds like a good idea as so often if ur in say 6 tourneys + and u only get knocked out early in only 1 or 2 and it gets manic out the cahing end so will give it a try.


Thanks all


Sos

[PLAYFUL1]

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[BluffYou123]

I can comfortably play 4 tables at a time and can manage 6.

9 is my absolute maximum as I like to tile them so I can at least somewhat see what's going on on all tables at once.

9 is fairly tough so I don't 9-table too often.

One thing I find very difficult is when all the tables require action at the same time.

Beeping all over the place and you can lose your composure easily, or at least I can.

[PLAYFUL1]

I can comfortably play 4 tables at a time and can manage 6.

9 is my absolute maximum as I like to tile them so I can at least somewhat see what's going on on all tables at once.

9 is fairly tough so I don't 9-table too often.

One thing I find very difficult is when all the tables require action at the same time.

Beeping all over the place and you can lose your composure easily, or at least I can.

YAH TILING IS THE ONLY WAY 2 MULTITABLING...PLAYFULS RECORD IS 9 AS WELL LOL.. WHAT A CRAZY TYME THAT WAS

[tbdbitl]

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Thank you PLAYFUL. Your posts always add great content and advice to a thread!