I Hate Getting Lucky

[Shad]

I hate sucking out it pisses me off and makes me feel like a damn donk. Look at the hand below and tell me if there was any way for me to get away from this hand, or is it just one of those hands that almost anyone would go all in with?

Full Tilt Poker Game #4593692636: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (34830786), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:46:55 ET - 2007/12/22
Seat 3: Belem (2,300)
Seat 4: Shad Daman (3,515)
Seat 5: ED Rider (1,970)
Seat 8: bugsy44 (5,715)
Belem posts the small blind of 80
Shad Daman posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Shad Daman [3c Kc]
ED Rider folds
bugsy44 calls 160
Belem calls 80
Shad Daman checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 5c 3h]
Belem checks
Shad Daman checks
bugsy44 checks
*** TURN *** [2c 5c 3h] [Kh]
Belem checks
Shad Daman checks
bugsy44 bets 160
Belem folds
Shad Daman raises to 480
bugsy44 raises to 800
Shad Daman raises to 3,355, and is all in
bugsy44 calls 2,555
Shad Daman shows [3c Kc]
bugsy44 shows [4c Ad]
*** RIVER *** [2c 5c 3h Kh] [Ac]
Shad Daman shows a flush, Ace high
bugsy44 shows a straight, Five high
Shad Daman wins the pot (7,190) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,190 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 5c 3h Kh Ac]
Seat 3: Belem (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Shad Daman (big blind) showed [3c Kc] and won (7,190) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: ED Rider didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: bugsy44 (button) showed [4c Ad] and lost with a straight, Five high

[mafalda34]

i think u were going nowhere with two pair and a flush draw, u had some outs so that wasnt a suckout.

[Shad]

Originally Posted by mafalda34

i think u were going nowhere with two pair and a flush draw, u had some outs so that wasnt a suckout.

He was a 3 to 1 favourite to win which makes me feel like I have to get lucky to win at this game.

[icairic]

It wasn't your fault really. This is why I generally dislike slowplaying. The board was fairly dangerous, and if I was in his shoes, I would have not slowplayed the hand postflop given the flush draw possibilities. I very rarely slowplay dangerous flops unless I am very sure of the possibilities.

In any case, there is no instance in this hand that merits bad/donkey play. You got to see a free flop, hit a two pair on the turn, and probed at the pot with two pair. Maybe your all in was a little excessive given the straight draw on the board, but with a flush draw and kings up, it was not a donkey move. Besides, if people see you as a donkey player, that makes it all the better because they won't respect your raises and then you trample them with your monsters.

[Goon79]

Not your fault in my opinion. He choose to play slow, so he has to live with the danger that someone gets a better hand post flop. And once you had the two pair+flushdraw there was no chance you could avoid the showdown.

[chink]

Why do you hate suckouts. Everyone sucksout. I think to win large and major tournaments you have to suckout at least once. Just look at it as a gift from the poker gods.

[jacks_off4me]

hi shad,

i also hate getting lucky...
dont know why, i guess the reason for that is turning from a student to an expert.

read a book about someone who was very sad about him getting/feeling old.

he came to a 90 year old doctor... they were talking about 20 minutes without even mentioning the illlness.... then the doctor sais to him what his sickness was , and said that he knew all about the patient even before he started talking.... so whats the deal you ask?

the deal is that the doctor maybe old but one thing no one can take away from him and that is: his life experience.

same about poker- someone said that the better he was, the luckier he got.

the experienced players know that poker is more about skill and less about luck. in my live game, the young unexperienced early chipleader, called someones allin with j2 off and rivered a straight flush with that deuce (his opponent flopped a flush holdind a king while the ace was already on board.

the live screams were heard from st petersburg to moscow!!!!!

but the interesting fact was that non of them was sitting at the final table along with me

ok so you get lucky several times during the session, but in order to get to the final table, and more important- winning it, takes a whole more than just stupid luck or a fucking bad beat.

PLAY ON MATE!

[Maturra]

i hate when youre 90% winning and a lucky guy hits you in the river,that sucks....

[gnk2727]

Originally Posted by Goon79

Not your fault in my opinion. He choose to play slow, so he has to live with the danger that someone gets a better hand post flop. And once you had the two pair+flushdraw there was no chance you could avoid the showdown.

Id have to agree with this. He slowplayed himself right outta the hand. I wouldnt have been able to get away from 2 pair at the turn either..........

[iamnocaveman]

i cant even get any luck at all!!!! what do you players do before the tourney starts to prepare