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Old 08-15-2008, 02:02 AM
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Default What makes the 'PERFECT/SPECIAL' tournament?

You've been looking forward to playing all week...you sit at the table(PC) and the tension mounts....what kind of evening will it be.....

For once the gods appear to be with you.

Is it that which makes it perfect?
Is it the win and nothing else?
Is it the people you play with?
Is it the amount you win?
Is it the atmosphere its played in?
Is it...........

What makes it perfect or special for you?

What if you got to play in a tournament with the likes of Phil Ivey? The man that can play any 2 cards like AA. Would that make it perfect/special?

I'll tell you what does it for me, if you tell me what does it for you. Thats fair n'est-ce pas?

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Old 08-16-2008, 04:03 PM
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Well i played a Game Last Night that was PLO at Tilt what made this a good game was that there where 9 Pros in it only about half played...

i managed to knock out 2 Ross Boatman that actual played and Berry Johnston who was a sit out...

I won 2 $12 bounties and a T-shirt a piece so 1 bounty payed for my buy-in so then i was basically playing for free....

then to top that off what really took the cake was that i ended up getting 3rd in the tourney and managed to make a $212 profit after buy in which i won back so for an investment of of $12 i won $224 counting bounties.....
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:23 PM
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I think different tourneys offer different lanes toward perfection. I enjoy a quiet evening playing any tourney really that is quality poker. If I feel I am reading my opponents well and playing my game well that is a pretty nice evening despite the finish. Sometimes I play a tourney because I want to cash others I play because I want to see how my game measures up. If my bankroll is doing well that week I will reward myself with a larger buy in tourney and see how I fair. The challenge makes it a great evening.

But ultimately I think to get the title of PERFECT EVENING I would need the win!
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The physical ambience is important to me. I love to sit at my computer listening to Dixie Chicks and sipping a glass of something ice-cold and alcoholic

Special tourneys for me are sitting at a table of good strong players, no all-inners, getting good cards and easy read opponents. It has happened in the past, but not as often as I would like
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The physical ambience is important to me. I love to sit at my computer listening to Dixie Chicks and sipping a glass of something ice-cold and alcoholic

Special tourneys for me are sitting at a table of good strong players, no all-inners, getting good cards and easy read opponents. It has happened in the past, but not as often as I would like
Sounds like a nice evening, especially if your husband just cooked you a gourmet meal and you ice cold drink is your after diner cocktail.
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Sounds like a nice evening, especially if your husband just cooked you a gourmet meal and you ice cold drink is your after diner cocktail.
Yes, he is a great cook when he chooses to be! I mostly heat things up and even then they are burnt

Not too many of the cocktails though, I would like to WIN too
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I guess my perfect/most enjoyable game is when I play to the best of my ability, even if I lose. If I do dumb things it ruins the game and usually puts me out.

I also enjoy playing at games where there is no trash talk to other players. I like to leave the chat on but only like friendly games.
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I am usually happy with a tournement if my exit was not caused by one of the following things:-

-me playing like an idiot
-me letting myself be blinded out
-going out to someone who sucked out after playing badly (someone making a misread and getting lucky, or getting good odds I can deal with)
-the structure in the tournement not being conducive to good poker play

The last one is prob the most importnant thing for me at the moment, I hate structures that cause tournies to become all-in crapshoots really early on. I can see it at the final table or something, but gettin that before the bubble has even broken is just stupid. I'm a big fan of good blind structures that rise at a good pace.
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Old 08-17-2008, 03:12 PM
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My Idea of a perfect game is getting through it w/o making any major mistakes reguardless of how I finish.
Making those fantastic calls always puts a highlight on any game I'm in. I also enjoy a nice cold one while playing and sometimes some table banter is fun. Not banter I start but lets say you trap down a big pot and it sets the other person off...that makes me laugh and I kinda feed off it....love to stoke the fire!!! hahaha. I wonder why they just can't say "nh" and then kick the computer like I do lol

Oh ya...also have to love those games where you just can't do wrong. every hand you're in you win, no matter the cards. i've had a few of those and wow do they make you feel like a cheater!!! (just waiting for one of those to happen in a BIG BIG game haha) pocket aces 6x in 30 minutes playing 6 handed haha got to love that at the final table, anytime i get that kinda roll early in the game I know i'm destined to bubble! OH YA! bubbling ruins any game! That for me is the biggest spoiler, it's not the 2$ i missed out on, but more like the thought of "why did I just do that!!!"
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Thanks all for the replies...more than I expected

The reasons why we play are as individual as ourselves.

I didn't have an answer to this question myself but with your help I've come to a conclusion for me.

What we find special about poker/playing is what generally drives us to play, well for me anyway. I couldn't put my finger on it, as I thought there was a multitude of factors.

Playing the pros: Nice, who wouldn't enjoy this, even to get beat, what then if you put three out in one game. An emotive experience for sure and one that would undoubtedly drive you onwards.

The win: Very nice, who doesn't enjoy winning, not only would that drive you on, but would give you the financial basis to do so.

The ambiance: The sum of the experience is important, whether thats the chat, the amount of alcohol, the player type, the site you play at, the game type you play in etc

The Challenge: Pitting oneself against stronger opponents (maybe pros) or in higher buyins, to me thats either an exhilerating experience or a dangerous one Not to be shyed away from but not a mainstay for me.

These are all important factors in your overall enjoyment in a game, I agree, but to me 'special' has to be available in each and everygame that I play. If the pros don't sit down or you can't get in their game, if you don't win or place, if you haven't enough alcohol, if the chat isn't what you expect, maybe you clicked on a turbo SNG rather than the deep stack MTT you would have preferred, where then is the 'special'?

I guess the only factor that is guaranteed in any game you play in is YOU (and on some days even that is missing) and when we talk about not making mistakes, making those outstanding calls, playing to the best of our ability etc I guess we are on the right lines.

In the original post I asked what if you got to sit in a game with the likes of Phil Ivey?

What is the 'likes' of Phil Ivey? The man that can play any 2 cards like AA.
If we assume that if you're dealt AA everytime then you have a +EV of 2.32 BB's per hand.

The likes of Phil Ivey then would be if we could play any 2 cards and have this expectation?

I played a game last week, and posted that it was special to me. I've had wins before, I've enjoyed many games more and I've lost in them, but the response in me at the end of this was different. What made it special?

Was it the win?
because it was against tough opponents,
the money,
the game type,
the fact that I'd hit a second in the NON US game just hours before,
because it was at a site I have difficulties with?

If i had taken the subjective view of all of the above then yes those would have been enough to make it special.

It wasn't until I analysed my play in that game that I got the answer.

I was dealt 281 hands in the game and I saw AA once. I won 2.5 BB with that hand.
Over the 281 hands I had an average expectation of +2.61 BB's/hand.

Is that in itself special?

NO, its a singular event If it were to happen everytime I play then yes, maybe this is what makes Phil Ivey special.

To me then its not playing like Phil Ivey or sitting in his game, even beating him,

its the opportunity to play, to play to the best of my ability, and if I do or don't, to understand the reasons why, and to become better not bitter.


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