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    Default Frustrating PKR

    Hi all,

    I played PKR last night for 7 hours .10/.25 cents micro max buy-in $25

    I started to get very frustrated with the flops as I noticed that every flop seem to produce a straight draw, a flush draw and a full house draw by the turn card, I got to the point If I had top 2 pair and it was cheep enough I smooth rolled my two pair, as I was losing money all most every time when the river hit by players who have been playing a lot longer than me seem to chase the river.

    I read the pkr in house forum and some body suggested that you do not slow play big pocket pairs, I have to say every time I speed balled them I lost!

    The times I saw QQ and AA go down was way beyond pokers maths.

    I found it a little frustrating to be honest.

    Does any one have any idea's for some sort of strategy for this?

    I talked to The Gypsy about it and He says it's to do with Micro and Bankroll, some times talking to Gypsy ( that is if can get hold of him thease days) can be even more aggravating than playing PKR

    good luck -r-

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    Hi all last report about PKR from me, I put in $2000.00 and got near the so called "easy" bonus points needed ie 14,800, I need 15000 to get half my money back.

    Anyway I am sorry to report after extensive calculations I have decided to not bother with PKR anymore.

    Sure I could put another 100 quid in and get 1000.00 back but do I want to waste MY time, no matter what I played including AA it got smashed!

    I sent all the HH to the Gypsy to see where my leak is in my game but I honestly think I really can not be bothered.

    I have cashed in 17 live events winning 6 of them, may be it's me, so it's time to call it a day. and I currently running +£28,000 in my bank roll!

    I see who ever at The Irish Open good luck, catch you all later

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by -kera- View Post
    Hi all last report about PKR from me, I put in $2000.00 and got near the so called "easy" bonus points needed ie 14,800, I need 15000 to get half my money back.


    I have cashed in 17 live events winning 6 of them, may be it's me, so it's time to call it a day. and I currently running +£28,000 in my bank roll!

    cheers
    Kera
    I read them to night I am off for lunch, so I try not to drink to much, sounds like they are going to be riverting bed time reading!

    Kera some people are just better live players, the one thing that strikes me now is this:-
    you lost 2k you are 200 points to get 1k back why dont you just put £50 back in get in .50/1.00 and call every hand pre-flop then fold???

    you come away with £900.00 better than being £2,000.00 down, ie you will be down £1,000 ( including the 100 you re-buy in with) ???

    Gypsy -Mobile-

    PS: I know you are a GOOD player because you beat me in the XXXXXopen )
    Dont know what else to say ex I read them HH and its not going to be a quick job you played a hell of a lot of hands.shoot 14hr poker sessions??? WTF!


    TEAM-UK

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    Default better to clear the bonus than not

    hi kera

    yep GT got in there before me - but I agree if you can see your close to clearing the $1000 bonus for the sake of another $100 deposit to get it

    thats very +ev

    $1000 - $100 additional cost (which you could still end up with) nets you $900 - $1000

    if your down $2k at the moment

    better to be only down only $1000 IMHO

    I've said before that it makes no sense for a truly terrible player to be constantly re-depositing to clear a bonus if they're not going to get it easily

    BUT in your case it looks like a simple case of being so near to getting a $1000 back it makes no sense to miss out on it for the sake of depositing $100 working capital to get $1k

    so thats two of us agreeing - and GT says your a good player - so YOU ARE a good player

    cheers scrawnybob
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    Hi Guys thanks for the reply's, I am not sure if I get £1000 back for 15k I read it I get £500 back, trying to sort it out now with "there" admin ( the rake backes the usal doubble talk)

    in short if I get 1k back I will put in another 100$ to try for it, if I get back 500 I will have a time out.

    I been talking to some one on the PKR forum I know from live play, He says it always does it when you are near to the bonus !!! WTF I give up I honestly don't know.

    Cheers Guys thank you.

    Its hard working in poker and playing it as well -shakes Her head-

    later -k-

    ps. I know I played to long G I dont know why I could have just gone to the GROV or Stany's for a bit of company I got obsessed with it
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    Default pkr rakeback / bonus

    hi kera

    PM me your player name at PKR ... if you've signed up via 4kingpoker links

    if you playing the volume of hands I think you are - I can get you moved over to rakeback at pkr

    so PM me asap if you have indeed signed up via 4kingpoker - and I will make sure we get you moved to RB

    cheers scrawnybob

    ps. the same goes for other decent volume players - if you playing a decent amount but have signed up via 4kingpoker I can always help you out IF we can get RB at a certain sites
    particularly PKR
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    Hi Bob

    I have sent you a pm.

    I had a guy at "OUR" techi department look at the situation and he has pointed out a few things about PKR.

    I am not going to bother with the above and I am going to close my account.

    Thanks for the help Boys, I am not allowed to play at iPoker sites, so I play live and do a few $25 sit&go's in Poker Stars for a while, untill I see the Gypsy I am just going to
    re-build my game.

    I lost with AA 27 times
    I lost with KK 42 times
    I lost with QQ 39 times
    I lost with JJ 14 times
    I lost with AKs and us 124 times.

    Sorry time to quit PKR.

    Cheers

    -k-
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    Default looking forward to GT's assesment of HH

    hi

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    Looking forward to GT's assesment of HH

    PM me before posting GT ... if thats ok with kera

    still off the top of my head 15k hands of a single player still isnt a massive sample for checking stats / probability / RNG etc - but Im sure plenty would disagree on that -

    PKR site "It is a requirement of the Alderney Gambling Control Commission that an independent testing house evaluates a licensee's RNG, operating procedures, systems architecture, technical infrastructure, site security and the veracity of the games themselves. PKR Ltd has been evaluated by Gaming Associates, an Australian based testing company and we have met their requirements".
    Ive also adding the links to GA in the quote above ... their client list very impressive

    also from PKR site on their RNG

    "At PKR.com we consider the fairness of our site and the games we offer to be of utmost importance. We have invested a considerable amount of time and effort to ensure that the shuffling algorithm is completely random and unpredictable.

    The Shuffling Algorithm

    For each hand of poker, we shuffle the entire deck before any cards are dealt. This is achieved as follows:

    We create an array with each of the 52 cards in order (2c, 2d, 2h, 2s, 3c... ... Ah, As). We then use the RNG to assign 32-bit random numbers (from 0 to 4,294,967,295) to each card. We then sort the array in increasing order using the number assigned to each card, generating a random permutation of the order of cards in the deck.

    It is possible for more than one card to be assigned the same number, although this happens less than one time in a million. In this case, we simply throw away the deck and start again.

    The poker logic then deals cards from this array, starting from the first card, as required by the poker logic (eg 2 cards to each player one at a time for hold’em, 3 for the flop, the turn and river cards – we don’t burn cards as there’s no chance of a user accidentally seeing an un-dealt card, and it makes no difference to the randomness of the shuffle).

    The Random Number Generator

    We use the Mersenne Twister(MT) algorithm to generate random numbers. This algorithm is detailed on the web site of its creators, here.

    We use this algorithm to generate our random numbers. MT is extremely fast, has statistically proven very random output (including passing the “Die Hard” test), a period of 2^19937 (approximately 10^6000), and can be seeded by a 19968 bit key.

    Seeding the RNG

    The RNG is regularly seeded using Microsoft’s Windows Cryptographic API. This service provides random numbers using the entropy naturally present in the physical server machines".
    cheers scrawnybob

    if its any consolalation I still cant hit a cows ass with a banjo at fulltilt - and I could easily conclude that the best hand never wins there too - but I dont ;-)
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    I could have told you ALL PKR is Fucking Pants ! if you asked me same as poker stars!

    The only one I ever saw do wellish in there is TOM the Bomb and he plays micro.

    What did Your Techi guy say about it kera?

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    Default COMMON Knowledge

    Quote Originally Posted by scrawnybob View Post
    hi

    Looking forward to GT's assesment of HH

    PM me before posting GT ... if thats ok with kera

    still off the top of my head 15k hands of a single player still isnt a massive sample for checking stats / probability / RNG etc - but Im sure plenty would disagree on that -



    Ive also adding the links to GA in the quote above ... their client list very impressive



    cheers scrawnybob

    if its any consolalation I still cant hit a cows ass with a banjo at fulltilt - and I could easily conclude that the best hand never wins there too - but I dont ;-)
    Common knowledge that PKR flops always give you some sort of ACTION FLOP, ie a flush draw, a straght draw, and a pair, AND some Aussie says it's OK and it,s ripper shella ! ROFLOLOLOL

    Ok I pass thank you

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