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    Default Bluffing in poker

    How often do you bluff in poker? And suppose if you are aware of the face that your opponents are already bluffing, what would you do?

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    1. I never bluff
    2. You reraise
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    I never bluff either so if I throw a big bet out there the best thing you can do is fold

    If you're feeling a little LAGgy though be aware of the other players on the table. I can't speak for tournaments or SNG's but as far as the ring tables go, if there is a couple of short stacks on the table chances are one of them will call you on a runner runner draw. Alot of the time they are pretty much pot commited before the flop even hits the table.
    Once you've been exposed as the thief on the table times get tough and pickings become slim.

    Biggest bluffers on the table, shortstacks of course. I was reading that Full Tilt is increasing there min buy-ins for the ring tables, I hope Pokerstars soon follows suit.
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    Why do you say shortstakers bluff? They have a certain range that they raise/shove but that happends preflop or on the flop. There is no action on turn or river.
    About the table min, pokerstars has already the 50bb min tables. All the regs that don't want to play shortstakers should just join or start those tables but I see them all the time on the regular tables bum hunting. And then they complain even though they're not doing much to kill those tables. When I'm playing I always try to start new 50bb tables and get some fish to sit ( even though the fish rapes me like has happend the last couple of days )
    Oh and I don't know if FT will increase the min to more than 30-40bb. The good (lol) shortstakers will adapt to that sooner or later imo. They just have to tighten up the range a little, no?
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    Well King, you raise a valid point. I guess it's not a bluff if you're pot commited for runner runner after the flop. It's just a frustrating strategy that I have no respect for.
    On top of that, of the shortstackers I've "tracked" few appear to be profitable, at least on the Omaha micro's.

    Yes there are 50bb tables, on .10/.25 right now there are 2 out of 13 running, 05/.10 is 2 out of 12. Got to wait a long time for those tables.

    If I'm playing and the shortstack raises pot I more often than not fold immediately. You already know his next move and I hate doubling them up to watch them disappear and reappear on the waiting list of the next table. "The I've got a rather decent hand so I'm pushing all in no matter what" approach to the game isn't poker to me, it's a coin flip. I already know how to flip a coin, I'm trying to learn poker.

    If they only doubled the min buy-in I believe, and would hope that the little buggers might slow down on the flop. If they're scared to lose $5, imagine what the thought of a whopping $10 hit to the bankroll would do.
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    The short stacks play Hit and Run. It,s effective stragedy. They pick there spots and try to double up. They may be more willing and less afraid to call an overly Large Bet from a PUSHY/BULLY Big Stack since there ALL IN isn,t that much to lose.I would definatley not try to Bluff them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jordanian47 View Post
    How often do you bluff in poker? And suppose if you are aware of the face that your opponents are already bluffing, what would you do?

    I probably bluff 10 percent of the time. But I do not know if I consider it bluffing.
    I bluff most likely when I am sitting to the right of the big blind and small blind. Nobody else has called, I wil put an allin bet out there. I have 2 face cards, and I know any 2 cards can win. I would not try with little cards because if I get called and we both get a pair, my lower pair loses, so I will fold my hand in this position and not try a bluff if I have rag rag.

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    I bluff in order to get better hands to fold and If I am successful, then I make them suck out. Even if you don't bluff while playing amongst donks, you still get benefit of the suspicion ( I am talking about most of the time). Well given that I know that my opponents bluffing, this can be a merry making situation.

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    Bluffing is a necessary part of the game when you are playing against people who pay attention to your betting patterns. I always bluff with best of precautions , because if it goes wrong it can be horrible.
    Plus it is always good to know a “bluffing architecture and its perquisites like mentioned at the bottom part of the article at xxxxxx
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    Not sure where you got that article from but I found it hard to read. It's as though it's been auto translated from another language into english.

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