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    A move to scuttle legislation outlawing online gambling suffered a major setback when a federal appeals court set aside constitutional and other legal challenges to the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006.

    A three-judge panel of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals brushed aside assertions that the act (.pdf) breached the privacy rights of gamblers to be free of government regulation in their own homes. The court also set aside a challenge that the law was too vague.

    "Here you have the government targeting something solely because it was on the internet. Every right and civil liberty in the offline world should convey in the online world," said Joe Brennan Jr., chairman of a trade group of gamblers, affiliated marketers and offshore online casinos that brought the case.

    According to the 2006 act, Congress adopted the regulation forbidding financial institutions from transacting in gaming revenues because "traditional law enforcement mechanisms are often inadequate for enforcing gambling prohibitions or regulations on the internet, especially where gambling crosses state or national borders."

    The decision comes as Congress is considering softening the ban in order to tax gambling proceeds, which could generate billions in federal gambling receipts annually.

    The lawsuit decided Tuesday was brought by the Interactive Media Entertainment and Gaming Association. The group, Brennan said, is considering its legal options, including going to the Supreme Court or asking the Philadelphia-based appeals court to reconsider.

    Brennan pointed out that some form of non-virtual gambling — such as lotteries, casinos, horse and dog racing — is allowed in all states but Hawaii and Utah.

    The group, in its privacy argument, cited Lawrence v. Texas, a 2003 Supreme Court decision reversing a state law outlawing homosexual sex.

    "As the Supreme Court explained in Lawrence, such laws 'touch upon the most private human conduct, sexual behavior, and in the most private of places, the home,'" the appellate court responded. (.pdf) "Gambling, even in the home, simply does not involve any individual interests of the same constitutional magnitude. Accordingly, such conduct is not protected by any right to privacy under the Constitution."

    Despite the act barring banks from transacting in online gaming wagers and proceeds, the Poker's Player Alliance estimates as many as 10 million Americans wager about $6 billion online annually. Many overseas internet gambling sites have blocked access to the United States, while others have not.

    John Pappas, the alliance's executive director, views online gambling no different than Wall Street derivative trading - a lawful method to bet for or against commodity prices and mortgage foreclosures, for example - all on the internet.

    "The idea that one area is now unlawful but the other activity is permissible and acceptable seems a bit inconsistent, especially when you consider the activity in the financial markets can have significant impact worldwide or nationwide," Pappas said.
    This from wired magazine what a fkn joke. We can bid on horses and dogs lotterys etc.... But POKER God no not poker. Does anyone else find this srtta Fkd!!!!
    ROCK ON TO ALL THE POKER SITES THAT STILL LET US PLAY HARD!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davejr420 View Post
    We can bid on horses and dogs lotterys etc.... But POKER God no not poker. Does anyone else find this srtta Fkd!!!!
    ROCK ON TO ALL THE POKER SITES THAT STILL LET US PLAY HARD!!!!!!!!
    The hypocrisy of our Government nevers ceases to amaze me and the fact that otb was specifically allowed in the UIGEA would be hilarious if it wasn't so ridiculous. Like that's NOT gambling.

    The UIGEA itself was passed in the dark of night and attached to the Safe Harbor bill.

    If we were as incompetent and corrupt as our lawmakers, we'd be unemployed and in jail.
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    What i don't understand is if the gov is worried that off shore gaming is helping to fund terrorist then why not make it so that American owned or at least owned by our allies sites can open up then they could not only track the money they could even tax it that way social security won't be gone and our schools don't need to close. Then again the voters here in Ca years ago ok'd the lottery because it wqs supposed to fund the schools, but the only things getting funded is the pockets of certain politicians sooooooo???
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    It seems that Senator Jon Kyl will stop at nothing to ensure that the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act gets implemented next week. Not even a face to face request from his former colleague Alfonse D’Amato was enough to sway his opinion.

    When the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act was introduced in 2006, it can safely be said that many of the politicians who supported it or voted in its favor were totally unaware of what they were backing.

    The poker industry received the summary of the House Ways and Means Committee special hearing on tax proposals on the internet gambling industry with lukewarm reactions.

    After the much anticipated hearing this week by the House Ways and Means Committee on tax proposals relating to the online poker and gambling industry, one thing is clear – support for the legalization of this industry is strong but there is still a long way to go before it comes a reality.

    The countdown has begun before the implementation of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) at the end of this month, and it is obvious that the battle for online poker is intensifying on the political front.
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    So if this is going to become in effect this coming week should we pull our funds off of sites while we can?
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    Default no - remember this does not make poker illegal

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    lets NOT forget this does NOT make online poker illegal

    its even written into the UIGEA that players cannot be prosecuted etc

    this is only an issue for the sites and the banks

    I dont see any likely practical change now - those that would have withdrawn did it in the last 3 years

    maybe payment processors change every now and again but thats just a chore not a real problem

    cheers scrawnybob

    ps. just remember the US gov want you to THINK you cant play online - when the UIGEA changes nothing from a players pov
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    Thanks Bob, as I understand it, it is not illegal to play poker online nor is it illegal to withdraw funds from the room to your web wallet or bank etc.. only thing that is illegal is funding the accounts right?
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