Omaha Confusion

[broke4 your]

In browsing through various Omaha texts, I keep running across
references to having a wrap or a "wraparound straight draw" or similar
terminology - without the term "wraparound" being clearly defined. So
finally I pull out my copy of "The Official Dictionary of
Poker" (compiled by Michael Wiesenberg) to see if I can find the
definition of wraparound and just what is so good about having a
wrap. The [verbatim] definition of a wraparound - straight from the
dictionary, page 274 - is as follows:

wraparound. (n) In Omaha, a situation in which your four downcards
consist of three consecutive cards, which combine with two cards of
the flop to form five consecutive cards, so that a large number of
cards on the turn or river give you a straight. For example, your
downcards are 6-5-4-A, and the flop is 7-8-K. You can make a straight
with any of 17 cards, any 6, 5, or 4, three each of which remain, or
any 9 or 3, of which four of each remain. Compare with FULL WRAP and
INSIDE WRAP.

Either I'm confused or there's a typo in the given example, because I
don't see any way that a 3 on the turn (or river) would give you a
straight. I see how a 9 gives you a 9-high straight - 9-8-7-6-5 - but
a 3 doesn't compute, given the 7-8-K flop and the four downcards.
Also, with the definition given above, I see only thirteen outs (not
seventeen) to a straight. I looked at the definitions for FULL WRAP
and INSIDE WRAP (in the book) and they make sense.

I suspect that a true wraparound, (like its cousins the FULL WRAP and
the INSIDE WRAP), has more than 13 outs, so I suspect a typo in the
given definition.

At the risk of embarrassment, could somebody either straighten out my
confusion or show me an example of a wraparound that has 17 outs.

[YoungGunKid]

Nice post I didnt know thats what those types of hands were called,but I dont play Omaha Alot just somtimes to switch it up

[Jayson745]

I think your right. Who ever wrote it, messed it up. if 3 of your cards in your hand are in a row, you loose one of the end numbers. the 3 which is 4 outs. The example should have been 7-8-K flop and 5-6-9 or 6-9-10 in your hand.

[KICKIN_ACES]

very nice post, I play omaha & this is very helpful

Thanks

[YoungGunKid]

Originally Posted by Jayson745

I think your right. Who ever wrote it, messed it up. if 3 of your cards in your hand are in a row, you loose one of the end numbers. the 3 which is 4 outs. The example should have been 7-8-K flop and 5-6-9 or 6-9-10 in your hand.

Jason is dead on in his post the example they gave is whack compared to what they were actually trying to portray to us...I guess we cant always do things perfectly

[Killermanner]

Oh yeah that post was much appreciated by regular omaha players

[YoungGunKid]

Originally Posted by Killermanner

Oh yeah that post was much appreciated by regular omaha players

Are you considered a "real" anything Killermanner??? LMAO j/k big guy...I do enjoy a good game of Omaha HI with solid players...not those preflop all in donkfests!!!

[Killermanner]

Notice that omaha is the only game I play as cash games, it's very very rare I play Hold'em.
At FTP and PS it's only omaha.

[mafalda34]

yeah nice to learn new things. I havent read a lot about OMAHA but i usually play HORSE and this could be very helpful

[Killermanner]

Originally Posted by mafalda34

yeah nice to learn new things. I havent read a lot about OMAHA but i usually play HORSE and this could be very helpful

HORSE in cash games or MTT? I use to play it only in sit n go or low limit private games.