A couple of hands

[pirates831]

I'd like to get some thoughts on these two hands. Other than the obvious, fold preflop, I'd like to see if anyone would approach these hands differently than I had played them. Assume you are willing to call preflop with the expectation of getting paid off if you flop big with implied odds.

Hand 1:
PokerStars Game #18976844107: Tournament #94434937, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/20 - 22:18:11 (ET)
Table '94434937 47' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: jekk68 (65 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: pirates831 (3895 in chips)
Seat 3: golden_kiwi1 (9065 in chips)
Seat 4: duduAAKK (4410 in chips)
Seat 5: Echomom (2450 in chips)
Seat 6: MI.Nuts (7070 in chips)
Seat 7: LongDonk (4090 in chips)
Seat 8: wetknapp (7830 in chips)
Seat 9: RohsWeee (3510 in chips)
jekk68: posts small blind 65 and is all-in
pirates831: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pirates831 [Jc 9h]
golden_kiwi1: calls 200
duduAAKK: raises 600 to 800
Echomom: folds
MI.Nuts: folds
LongDonk: folds
wetknapp: folds
RohsWeee: folds
jekk68: folds
pirates831: calls 600
golden_kiwi1: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [9c Ks 9s]
pirates831: checks
golden_kiwi1: checks
duduAAKK: bets 800
pirates831: raises 2295 to 3095 and is all-in
golden_kiwi1: folds
duduAAKK: calls 2295
*** TURN *** [9c Ks 9s] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [9c Ks 9s Ts] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pirates831: shows [Jc 9h] (three of a kind, Nines)
duduAAKK: shows [Js As] (a flush, Ace high)
duduAAKK collected 8395 from side pot
duduAAKK collected 260 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8655 Main pot 260. Side pot 8395. | Rake 0
Board [9c Ks 9s Ts 3h]
Seat 1: jekk68 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: pirates831 (big blind) showed [Jc 9h] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 3: golden_kiwi1 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: duduAAKK showed [Js As] and won (8655) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: Echomom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MI.Nuts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: LongDonk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: wetknapp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: RohsWeee (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Hand 2:
PokerStars Game #18972827248: Tournament #94805847, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/20 - 19:20:28 (ET)
Table '94805847 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: KillerPot (810 in chips)
Seat 3: DarkRalph (1495 in chips)
Seat 4: scottmr24 (1550 in chips)
Seat 5: TroEmSC (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: natashaD (1785 in chips)
Seat 8: lurock2k5 (2590 in chips)
Seat 9: pirates831 (2330 in chips)
pirates831: posts small blind 15
KillerPot: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pirates831 [7h 6h]
DarkRalph: folds
scottmr24: calls 30
TroEmSC: folds
natashaD: calls 30
lurock2k5: raises 30 to 60
pirates831: calls 45
KillerPot: folds
scottmr24: calls 30
natashaD: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Th Kh Ah]
pirates831: checks
scottmr24: checks
natashaD: checks
lurock2k5: bets 1000
pirates831: raises 1270 to 2270 and is all-in
scottmr24: folds
natashaD: folds
lurock2k5: calls 1270
*** TURN *** [Th Kh Ah] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [Th Kh Ah 2h] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pirates831: shows [7h 6h] (a flush, Ace high)
lurock2k5: shows [Ts Tc] (a full house, Tens full of Aces)
lurock2k5 said, "vnh"
lurock2k5 collected 4810 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4810 | Rake 0
Board [Th Kh Ah 2h Ad]
Seat 2: KillerPot (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: DarkRalph folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: scottmr24 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: TroEmSC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: natashaD folded on the Flop
Seat 8: lurock2k5 (button) showed [Ts Tc] and won (4810) with a full house, Tens full of Aces
Seat 9: pirates831 (small blind) showed [7h 6h] and lost with a flush, Ace high

[wixx]

Hand 1 come on man you called a big raise with 9 J off...ok so maybe you felt lucky...once you hit trips you pushed...I push with trips on a flush draw board too...that guy made a gutsy call. Hand 2, I can see calling there with suited connectors...but the flush flop hits and you are holding 6 7...that guy is all in...I would put him on a high flush more than a bluff, or what he had. Sure he got lucky and beat you in the end, but I would be hard pressed to call all-in with a low flush like that...

[Hookt4eva]

PokerStars Game #18976844107: Tournament #94434937, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/20 - 22:18:11 (ET)
Table '94434937 47' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: jekk68 (65 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: pirates831 (3895 in chips)
Seat 3: golden_kiwi1 (9065 in chips)
Seat 4: duduAAKK (4410 in chips)
Seat 5: Echomom (2450 in chips)
Seat 6: MI.Nuts (7070 in chips)
Seat 7: LongDonk (4090 in chips)
Seat 8: wetknapp (7830 in chips)
Seat 9: RohsWeee (3510 in chips)
jekk68: posts small blind 65 and is all-in
pirates831: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pirates831 [Jc 9h]
golden_kiwi1: calls 200
duduAAKK: raises 600 to 800
Echomom: folds
MI.Nuts: folds
LongDonk: folds
wetknapp: folds
RohsWeee: folds
jekk68: folds
pirates831: calls 600
golden_kiwi1: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [9c Ks 9s]
pirates831: checks
golden_kiwi1: checks
duduAAKK: bets 800
pirates831: raises 2295 to 3095 and is all-in
golden_kiwi1: folds
duduAAKK: calls 2295
*** TURN *** [9c Ks 9s] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [9c Ks 9s Ts] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pirates831: shows [Jc 9h] (three of a kind, Nines)
duduAAKK: shows [Js As] (a flush, Ace high)
duduAAKK collected 8395 from side pot
duduAAKK collected 260 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8655 Main pot 260. Side pot 8395. | Rake 0
Board [9c Ks 9s Ts 3h]
Seat 1: jekk68 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: pirates831 (big blind) showed [Jc 9h] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 3: golden_kiwi1 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: duduAAKK showed [Js As] and won (8655) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: Echomom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MI.Nuts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: LongDonk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: wetknapp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: RohsWeee (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i see why you called the 800 due to your chip count but those cards were'nt worth it in that situation.then you get lucky an see a flop like that yeah that was the right call.
an then came the turn thas where he got lucky, even though you play to see a flop an saw something good his flush was in the making good try.

Dealt to pirates831 [7h 6h]
DarkRalph: folds
scottmr24: calls 30
TroEmSC: folds
natashaD: calls 30
lurock2k5: raises 30 to 60
pirates831: calls 45
KillerPot: folds
scottmr24: calls 30
natashaD: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Th Kh Ah]
pirates831: checks
scottmr24: checks
natashaD: checks
lurock2k5: bets 1000
pirates831: raises 1270 to 2270 and is all-in
scottmr24: folds
natashaD: folds
lurock2k5: calls 1270
*** TURN *** [Th Kh Ah] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [Th Kh Ah 2h] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pirates831: shows [7h 6h] (a flush, Ace high)
lurock2k5: shows [Ts Tc] (a full house, Tens full of Aces)
lurock2k5 said, "vnh"
lurock2k5 collected 4810 from pot

hand#2 be careful when calling with a flush with a low numbers
even though you was dealt the flush at the flop sometimes that turn makes a big difference on ur call if is part of the flush,if one of my tens was a heart it would of played out different even though i won it but i got lucky on the river an made a fullhouse
i was playing my trips an then a full house developed at the river

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[pirates831]

did you think you were beat when i pushed?

[Hookt4eva]

Originally Posted by pirates831

did you think you were beat when i pushed?

nah i wasn't thinking about that i put you on a face card which i was wrong but i was goin all in with my trip 10's

[GObILLIARDS]

wow, Well obv you fold both hands preflop and you dont lose a dime right? The problem with $1.00 tourneys is that you cant lose more than a dollar. thats why there are way to many people playing like you are here. The more the game is played like that (Calling big raises with j9 etc.) the more it is reduced to a slot machine luckbox of an event.

But assuming I am playing like you said for big value if it hits. I still have to pop the flush as soon as it hits. There are way to many things that can go wrong to check raise like you did. No way he folds anyway in these luckaments, but you took away his option by pricing him in with the check raise. Only way you can win this hand is to get him to fold before the turn.

I think you are totally on the wrong track in terms of style. In these type of tourneys you have to conserve chips so you can protect your premium hands. You will not win near as many $1.00 tournaments playing the loose style as you will playing tight and agressive post flop when you hit. you have to reduce the amount of flips cause you will never win them all.

[wixx]

Very good point. I missed that the first time, but by check-raising you made it 'easy' to be called. Guy bets you raise he only has to bet a little more. If you are allin off the go he may not call a larger amount with nothing invested. But you were short stacked and he would have called hoping to hit the flush anyway. Once you were in that hand you were doomed.

The second hand I enjoyed reading both of the sides to the story.