final table advice??

[tjizzle3526]

hey guys i have made quite a few final tables but can't seem to get passed third. i was just wondering if anyone might have some advice on climbing over that hump and finally winning one. thx

[ddlogan]

i dont know man sometimes its luck other times its all about making the right move at the right time... like betting when you think your opponent weak or when he is playing tight just things like that might help you get to the next level

[TroyC]

So, while I prefer cash [ROI for time invested]; i have found similar issues in tourneys. I seem to CONSISTENTLY take 3rd, 4th, and 5th [of 63+ people tourneys].

What seems to happen to me is right after [or going into] making the final table, I get card dead. Just plain dead K3off, 49off, J2off [back to back to back], etc.

The couple of times I've taken either 1st or 2nd, it seemed that prior to the "bubbles" [pay-out & final-table] I played a bit more aggressive at that stage. 6xbb w/ an A9off or if someone makes it 3xBB, depending upon position, going all-in pre-flop with KQsuited.

Now there's been times that's totally bitten me in the arse. KQsuited runs into KK for example, you 2x the other guy up & wham you're low-to-middle-stack.

So part of it seems to help as always to get cards at that stage. But for most of the tourney, I play extremely TAG. And that's my image at the table -- I don't complete the SB with marginal hands. Other players pick up on that... in fact it seems to bewilder quite a few -- I get comments like you're cards aren't worth another 100? when the blinds are 100/200. To which I'll lie [bout my actual hand] and say something like "TJ off is still junk in early position" etc.

And it helps in showdown to show quality hands.

Now all this may be moot if the field is >80 or so, as too many peeps are dropping and tables combining to keep track of all the other players [or them keep track of you].

But if you're at the table their bringing peeps to and your table image can be maintained, some well timed aggression helps getting over that hump.

good luck,
TroyC

[larryt503]

I agree with DDLogan. If you're playing well enough to make the final table, then you play well enough to win so resist changing at the end. Good practice might also be playing in single table sit & go tourneys.

[rock]

it 's luck , skill, and computer script... oppsie i saud too much

[NUCKING_FUTS_4]

Originally Posted by tjizzle3526

hey guys i have made quite a few final tables but can't seem to get passed third. i was just wondering if anyone might have some advice on climbing over that hump and finally winning one. thx

Be prepared to loose it first

Information assimilation... stacks,blinds,antes,players,positions,moods,pay structure, cards, image, the usual

Opening hands will have to vary given the lesser number of players at the table as it progresses.

And SELECTIVE AGGRESSION (its war)

Plenty of SNG (9 players) practice, 2 table MTT (18 players) give you a sense of both worlds and are a welcome change at times.

[jeffsbabe]

Originally Posted by rock

it 's luck , skill, and computer script... oppsie i saud too much

What is "computer script"?

[fin2head]

I haven't been playing playing online long about 2 months. Have made final table twice and crapped out. Only thing that happens to me is I tend to get very loose, see the card I wanted in flop and forget about evaluating the other flopped cards and their potential to make opponent hand better than mine. Narrow sighted I guess need to work on that!

[wicked663]

Originally Posted by fin2head

I haven't been playing playing online long about 2 months. Have made final table twice and crapped out. Only thing that happens to me is I tend to get very loose, see the card I wanted in flop and forget about evaluating the other flopped cards and their potential to make opponent hand better than mine. Narrow sighted I guess need to work on that!

That is a common mistake that I have made more than once. You fall in love with your hand and forget that there are others out there that could be better. The best way to prevent this I have found is to constantly think about your opponents. I write notes on them and talk to myself about their play. To keep my mind focused on more than just my cards. My nieghbors probably think I am crazy sitting at my computer at midnight talking to myself but it helps me.