Donkey Hand of the Week.

[GypsyTea]

AT = Ace Ten Off.

Pre flop chances of winning 62% v ?? random Hand

So why would anybody play it except in the cut off or at the DB or in the blinds where there's no raise???

Comments welcomed

Regards

Gypsy

[milkman5029]

cuz, sound like you may be talking about me or it could be some1 else. yesterday at bodog i made a play like that. on the hand b4 that i took a bad beat and was down to leess than 1700 chips at the last 2 tables. i had less than 1 orbit to go b4 being blinded out. so i said wtf and pushed knowin i was busted. well their A 10 didn't hold up and i hit one of my rags. only reason i done it was b/c i was short stacked. but i ended up in 3rd place finish

[pothole]

A 10 os is what I call a "get you in trouble" hand and should only be played in late position and you must raise to take the pot right there. Many players limp in mid position with hands like this and inevitably have no option but to fold to any raise ( assuming there not a donkish player ). There are those who say see flops cheap when the blinds are low, but this is an easy way to eat up chips. The trouble with hands like this is when the flop comes A10Q, nice, you hit two pr with your aces over, unfortunately the BB has JK, you are now in real trouble. The hand now has only 2 ways to play out, you will either check ( hoping to trap ) or you will push thinking you have the best hand. Either way you are dominated and have 4 outs to win the hand and 6 to split needing runner runner. Lousy position to be in and your probably going out especially if the turn and river are low cards before the action starts.

[jacks_off4me]

Many players limp in mid position with hands like this and inevitably have no option but to fold to any raise ( assuming there not a donkish player ). There are those who say see flops cheap when the blinds are low, but this is an easy way to eat up chips. The trouble with hands like this is when the flop comes A10Q, nice, you hit two pr with your aces over, unfortunately the BB has JK, you are now in real trouble. The hand now has only 2 ways to play out, you will either check ( hoping to trap ) or you will push thinking you have the best hand. Either way you are dominated and have 4 outs to win the hand and 6 to split needing runner runner. Lousy position to be in and your probably going out especially if the turn and river are low cards before the action starts.

i have nothing to add to this beautiful comment by pothole

only this video: YouTube - Hellmuth/Negreanu Hand on HSP

this hand was so easy to track on youtube
because it's about the only time i saw it win big

[pothole]

i have nothing to add to this beautiful comment by pothole

only this video: YouTube - Hellmuth/Negreanu Hand on HSP

this hand was so easy to track on youtube
because it's about the only time i saw it win big

Not sure if your being sarcastic, but the way the hand played out was as per my post. Neg ( knowing Phill will raise late with anything ) reraised in BB position, Phill = donkish player = too stupid to fold, called. Phill did his normal check before the flop routine and Danny countered by bet 10k before the dealer dropped the flop. There was no str8 or flush draw after the flop so Phill had no idea where he stood, Danny was in the driver seat betting every street and Phill was still too stupid to fold thinking he had it even when he called Negs river bet. The only time to continue calling an ace flop with A4os, is if there are str8 possibilities. Any sane player would have folded A4 os to a reraise.

[jacks_off4me]

Not sure if your being sarcastic, but the way the hand played out was as per my post.

NO sir i wasnt

but when posting attracts more posting it doesn't really matter

[pothole]

NO sir i wasnt

but when posting attracts more posting it doesn't really matter

In that case, thanks for the props,,,

[Poker Orifice]

A-To.... I will open for a raise with A-To in mid. to late position (usually). Not in early levels and not on an overly loose, aggressive table.
It is really dependent on so many factors that it is very difficult to just say briefly how I would play a particular hand. I'm apt to raise with 4-7s if I think I can make it profitable for myself.

I do see alot of people overplay A-To,... calling a raise before them. I'm apt to fold AJ if there's a preflop raise in ahead of me and we're not deepstacks, especially if the raise is from EP or E-MP. I learned a long time ago... calling preflop with AJ is a good way to lose (money/chips). It did take me 5x in one day to get it thru my melon though - - - calling preflop raises while holding AJo or AJs,.. flop brings an A.. and of course I'm in trouble.

I like to see others calling with AT..... I'm marking away in my notes... lol.

This reply here is just a vague idea.... it is too difficult for me to suggest how I would play just about any two cards without a bunch of info. But generally speaking... I am raising with it like I would be with anyother hand I'm playing if I'm first one in the pot.... I will consider calling to other limpers if in late pos. & would consider calling if I'm in LP and other player on my righ in LP is known to be a LAG and comes in with a raise (with position on him I will consider calling here).

[Sysvr4]

The biggest error people make with ATo (and hands like it) are cold calling raises OOP. In EP on a full ring table, I tend towards folding it. In MP/LP with only limpers in front, I'll limp. In LP with no raises, I raise. In the BB I'll defend or repop a button raiser, depending.

There's no absolute way to play ANY hand, it all depends on the game, the players, how you're perceived, etc. I'm positive on ATo according to pokertracker, and you probably will be as well if you do not adapt hard and fast rules with it and are able to get away from top pair when necessary.

YMMV.

[pirates831]

cuz, sound like you may be talking about me or it could be some1 else. yesterday at bodog i made a play like that. on the hand b4 that i took a bad beat and was down to leess than 1700 chips at the last 2 tables. i had less than 1 orbit to go b4 being blinded out. so i said wtf and pushed knowin i was busted. well their A 10 didn't hold up and i hit one of my rags. only reason i done it was b/c i was short stacked. but i ended up in 3rd place finish

not to hijack this thrad, but if you were first in the pot and had less than 1 orbit of blinds and antes, you were absolutely right to push with any 2 cards. doesn't matter if its 2-7o. your goal isn't to get called, its to pick up blinds and antes.