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    KK and raise big, caller calls raise, K keep betting until rivere when it gives chaser flush. Keep raising, go all in?

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    Can you please be more specific? Even I didn't understand the hand and your question about the hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luzipher View Post
    Can you please be more specific? Even I didn't understand the hand and your question about the hand.

    hes saying right, you got kings.

    you keep betting from the start, and some guy just keeps calling.
    You suspect hes chasing a flush, cause therre are two of a suit on the river.

    The river flops another of the suit.

    do you check,bet or all in?

    is what hes saying

    can I get a round of applause from working that out somehow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerking00 View Post
    hes saying right, you got kings.

    you keep betting from the start, and some guy just keeps calling.
    You suspect hes chasing a flush, cause therre are two of a suit on the river.

    The river flops another of the suit.

    do you check,bet or all in?

    is what hes saying

    can I get a round of applause from working that out somehow?
    How can be ask if go allin if suspect he was chasing the flush?
    Is the worst way to confirm your suspect!
    Probably c/f or b/f is the answer if you are suspecting the flush there.

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    yeah i dont get how all in is a win situation.. if your trying to scare him, then you had him beat anyway, and if he calls, your bust!

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    Are sure he was asking if he should go all in after river? Maybe he wanted to know if he should try to scare him after turn with a big bet or all in?
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    If I am reading this right, the question is how to play kings???


    Which is a little difficult to answer in this script, because we don’t have enough information in regard to the mathematics of the situation, we also don’t know what position the player with the “kings” is, and we don’t know the stakes of the game which is of importance because if it was as I suspect a cheap game i.e. under $50 USD from My personal experience in places like poker stars and fulltilt, it doesn’t seem to matter what player’s have in their starting hand, you are going to get ACTION. ( which isn’t a BAD thing if you are holding King Kong in your pocket! )


    Anyway following on from the above:-


    KK = pre flop chances of winning with ONE caller= 26.41% or roughly
    4 to 1 “ish”.

    Now I personal like to slow roll King’s in an early to mid position, and that’s live or in a computer, because experience has taught me that anyone with a high AcePaint, and sometimes a suited Ace is going to call, now there a 39% chance of seeing an Ace on the community cards, so even tho it’s the second best starting hand I am not going to be putting my house on it, without some sort of equity to justify the PLAY!

    I once saw, in a live cash game UTG raise all-in around 1K, UTG+1 called, pot’s 3.5K and I on the Small Blind calling with Pot Odd’s and won the hand with 66 and spiked a 6 on the river, UTG had KK, and UTG +1 had AA, a situation I have to admit I enjoyed immensely, as I loved “Rivering” the 2 other “coffee housing suckers” who had been a “bundle of joy” ( big headed) from the outset of the game, apparently I am some sort of Donkey according to the other 2 super stars of poker!


    So the sort answer is:- It Depends Happy Hunting

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    If you had a Bigger chip stack than the flush chaser.Assuming your read was right he was on flush draw and not 2 pair or trips and trapping you.I would have Pushed him ALL IN on the turn so he really had to put his tournament life on the river.After the river flushed you were too late and could make a good fold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgchan View Post
    If you had a Bigger chip stack than the flush chaser.Assuming your read was right he was on flush draw and not 2 pair or trips and trapping you.I would have Pushed him ALL IN on the turn so he really had to put his tournament life on the river.After the river flushed you were too late and could make a good fold.
    good point

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