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    Default Why did my fellow 4king'er say this to me?

    Here is a hand played in sundays team game on FT that I just had to share. The ensuing chat baffled me no end!

    Was my competitor(GOIVIT) trying to;
    1) get under my skin
    2) just having a laugh
    or
    3) was he honestly mistaken about the way the hand played out..
    ???


    Full Tilt Poker Game #11155353405: 4kingpoker FullTilt Team Cup (82354053), Table 6 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:23:37 ET - 2009/03/15
    Seat 2: sissorhead (3,840)
    Seat 3: mac is back1 (1,180)
    Seat 4: I_DontBluff1 (3,540)
    Seat 5: scottmr24 (870)
    Seat 6: kaiser sauze (4,420)
    Seat 8: jolub (1,860)
    Seat 9: GOIVIT (3,245)
    GOIVIT posts the small blind of 80
    sissorhead posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to sissorhead [Qd 8d]
    sissorhead: gg
    mac is back1 folds
    I_DontBluff1: gg ray
    GOIVIT: gg
    I_DontBluff1 folds
    scottmr24 folds
    kaiser sauze folds
    jolub folds
    GOIVIT calls 80
    sissorhead checks
    *** FLOP *** [7d 6h Qs]
    GOIVIT checks
    sissorhead checks
    *** TURN *** [7d 6h Qs] [4d]
    GOIVIT bets 160
    sissorhead calls 160
    *** RIVER *** [7d 6h Qs 4d] [5d]
    GOIVIT bets 160
    sissorhead has 15 seconds left to act
    sissorhead raises to 480
    GOIVIT calls 320
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    sissorhead shows [Qd 8d] a flush, Queen high
    GOIVIT mucks
    sissorhead wins the pot (1,600) with a flush, Queen high
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1,600 | Rake 0
    Board: [7d 6h Qs 4d 5d]
    Seat 2: sissorhead (big blind) showed [Qd 8d] and won (1,600) with a flush, Queen high
    Seat 3: mac is back1 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: I_DontBluff1 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: scottmr24 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: kaiser sauze didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: jolub (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: GOIVIT (small blind) mucked [5c 7c] - two pair, Sevens and Fives

    GOIVIT: another chaser
    GOIVIT: u will die doing that
    sissorhead: ?
    GOIVIT: chase a flush to the river
    GOIVIT: needing 2 cards
    sissorhead: i flopped top pair
    sissorhead: lol
    GOIVIT: so did I
    sissorhead: im embarressed lol

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    Pokertoker, you flopped top pair (QQ) so you did not need the flush at that point, the flush was a bonus to you. Sounds like GOIVIT was bluffing and got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and was just angry.
    I think i seen Phil (the poker brat) Hellmuth act like this before, more than once i'm sure.
    Dont worry about players that say stupid crap like this. Its just showing poor sportsmanship on there part.
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    Default looks like option 3

    hi

    looking at it I'm guessing that if GOIVIT "flopped top pair) it was either with a decent kicker like an ace or maybe flop top 2 pair

    anyway I dont really see anything wrong with the way you played the hand

    on the flop you made top pair

    on the turn you actually had a straight AND a flush draw

    not sure GOIVIT was really venting that badly - Ive seen a hell of alot worse

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    Dealt to sissorhead [Qd 8d]

    Board: [7d 6h Qs 4d 5d]

    Seat 9: GOIVIT (small blind) mucked [5c 7c] - two pair, Sevens and Fives

    Looks to me like you had him beat from start to finish
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    Quote Originally Posted by nb1961 View Post
    Dealt to sissorhead [Qd 8d]

    Board: [7d 6h Qs 4d 5d]

    Seat 9: GOIVIT (small blind) mucked [5c 7c] - two pair, Sevens and Fives

    Looks to me like you had him beat from start to finish

    Yeah it does appear to be that way. Its not like the OP called a PFR or anything. He called min bets along the way.....I see nothing wrong with this play........
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    Seems to me he was just mad he didn't realize you had a pair of queens after the flop. Nothing wrong with your play. Some people just get mad when they realize they didn't win the hand, then they get ugly. Not good sportsmanship, but that comes with online poker. You handled it very well and shut him up at the same time. Nice going!

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    Not 1 or 2, closer to 3. I thought I had flopped 2 pair, my mistake. Sorry.
    Last edited by GOIVIT; 03-20-2009 at 08:51 PM.
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    1) I'm puzzled why he'd bet the river with a weak hand (or a marginal one at best). This is a common error of rookies (not saying you're a rookie). Perhaps it was a defensive blocker bet (he was trying to price the river... betting out what he figured he'd be willing to call.. instead of checking and then having to face the decision of calling a larger bet). I think not though.

    2) Having put out a bet with a weak holding, I'm also confused as to why he'd call the raise on the river?? Puzzling.... Then again I watch much more puzzling stuff than that - - ie. min. re-raising wars on the river, where someone is actually min reraising another player who is holding the nuts..... hello... a min reraise on the river is very often an indication that said opponent is holding the nuts
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    Respect to you GOIVIT and thanks everyone else for the analysis!

    You didn't need to apologise btw...
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