Feedback on this hand, what you do?

[Logan]

Hey guys, i like some feed back on this hand.

i don't know how to post this code in here so i left the link to the replayer.

Play this hand, Please - Poker Hand Replays




Its a $6 buy-in MTT, freezeout, $2,000 GUARANTEED!

467 players, 70 places are pay, 42 left, so we are in the money already.

Blinds1000/2000

Table is really loose preflop and very thigh after flop.

What you do?.

[kingjames07]

i chose all in...but don't know how to make the rest of the hand play out on that site....lol

[villaridge]

yeah, i would go all in. but like KJ, I cant see what happened.

[kingmotan]

I voted to fold on the turn
And I swear, what I thought is that he had a higher set.

P.S. I would probably have called "just to see..."

[Logan]

To see the rest of the hand after you vote just close that window (the little window where you vote, click in the upper right cross) and then just click play and all the hand run again to the end.


My think in here was that in flop every one check, in turn the guy that raise preflop check again, so, was expecting that the other guy try to steal the pot in here, in that moment we have a 21,000 pot, and the guy like i expect bet, and he bet 23,000, so i think that maybe he got a over pair or have nothing, i really don't think in a set because the over bet, so of course i do the same like KJ and Villa and push.

[Terminal Frost]

The key was the check on the flop.

Tough to fold there. I would not have put him on an over pair because I think he would have bet the flop with an over pair.

[Whatsthepassword?]

Hitting trips on the turn, your all-in makes sense. Painful to lose to higher trips at showdown.

[Poolcue]

You did nothing wrong,just unlucky he had a higher set.

[ND1991]

Ok, so if you started with 1500 chips avg. stack is around 17k and you are at 45.7 so in good shape.

Second, table is loose pre-flop and you get 3x raise, 1 caller in front of you, and both blinds with nice odds both fold. SB getting 4 to 1 and BB 5 to 1.

Pre-flop raiser range of hands: AK, AQ, AJ, AT, Axs, KQ, pp, maybe suited connectors?
Caller range of hands: AK, AKs, AQs, AJs, ATs, KQs, pp > 7, maybe suited connectors?
You call: your call here instead of raise tells me two things: 1) you are trying to spike a set, and 2) you are not real confident in hand since you know you are in a 3-way pot, not a good thing with 44.

OPTION 1a) Raise and try to get heads up, or 1b) Fold pre-flop and wait for better hand.

FLOP: Everyone checks. Once again, I do not like taking the free card here in position. Make a probe bet to see if someone is slow playing something.

OPTION 2a) Bet out in position to see if you can take it own right there. With a bet here, I would guess an overpair re-raises (why he didn't bet I do not know), trips smooth call or re-raise, two overs fold or call. But regardless you get some more information for cheap. 10k bet gives two overs the right odds to call, so maybe 12.5k to 15k for the info I would want. 2b) Check and plan to fold unless you can check it the whole way down. Your check here says you think you are still behind. If you think you are winning you should be betting. So what are you losing to? Overpair? Doubtful it most likely would have bet. Set, if so you are dead in the water. Straight draw? If so your bet at least makes them pay to get there. most important thing here is you have to consider a slow-played set here so a 4 may not even help.

Turn hits your set! Everything pre-flop and post-flop still apply EXCEPT your hand is now better.

Overpair you are 95+% favorite.
Two overs you have won.
Set - you are going to lose everything most likely.
6-8 from second player - you are going to lose everything. He would have had odds to call with that pre-flop on an aggressive table.
8-9 - can still bust you
4-6 - can still bust you
2 clubs can still bust you.

OPTION 3a) Fold. Read through everything, this hand never shaped up well for you, and there are still ways to get busted here IF you are ahead, and you could be losing to another slow-played set and have 1-outer. 3b) Push all-in, there is ZERO reason to call here, you can only improve with the final 4, a paired table doesn't help if you are up against set, and doesn't hurt if you are not.

Possible Outcomes:
A) you are out of tournament
B) you are at 100k
C) you are at 40k

This is where I always "get lost". I have a hard time doing the breakdown real-time to put percentages on each of these. If the average chip-stack is around 17k, then 40k is more than enough to keep mixing it up.

I think I probably fold here to the pre-flop raise against more than a single player OR raise to try and get heads-up.

Fold on turn because of how I play is easier even with set, but All-In is not a bad play.

I definitely would not second what you did. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Good luck at the tables.

[rgchan]

I wouldn,t put him on the overpair as he didn,t bet after the flop before the Turn. He bet when he swas the Turn Card which had both flush and str8 potential draws.I would have put him on an Ace-Q of clubs trying to steal the pot but with a flush draw and 2 over just in case.A Call could have been just as effective as he wasn,t going to fold any draw after that bet committed him.When flush and str8 were eliminated I would have bet it.
Just unlucky ,, but as you said already itm and couldn,t fold that hand very easily ,,