What would you do?????

[ND1991]

PokerStars Game #33868533010: Tournament #202574109, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/10/10 14:15:59 ET
Table '202574109 4' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: ND1991 (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: Markmax33 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: DutchRemco (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: gtx1978 (1460 in chips)
Seat 5: morit23 (1830 in chips)
Seat 6: MR. KY (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: Czar_of_TX (1470 in chips)
Seat 8: tinglemeoff (1420 in chips)
Seat 9: magleon1976 (1470 in chips)
magleon1976: posts small blind 10
ND1991: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ND1991 [4s 5s]
Markmax33: folds
DutchRemco: folds
gtx1978: calls 20
morit23: folds
MR. KY: folds
Czar_of_TX: folds
tinglemeoff: raises 60 to 80
magleon1976: calls 70
ND1991: calls 60 --- made the call based on multi-way action
gtx1978: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [6c 5h 4d] --- botttom 2-pair -- ugh!!!!!
magleon1976: checks
ND1991: checks --- passive to see what happens since I am out of position
gtx1978: bets 260
tinglemeoff: folds
magleon1976: calls 260

What would you do? It is about the fourth hand of a 180-man 10-table tournament so no reads yet.

And I only played this hand because I am trying to expand my starting hands in certain situations. This was one of them low suited connectors in multi-way pot for cheap (<5x BB)

Thanks!

[Alnoble]

I would fold as it very early on and as you say you are out of position, you know patience pays in the long run.

However it's an intresting hand to discuss possible options.

The bet suggests he missed the flop but had limped with a big pair or an ace with a big kicker. The caller would worry me as he is the one most likely to have hit a set or straight. How quick did he call the raise ?

I often see players limping or calling small raises with 78 pre flop. There's no logic to this but as they are middle cards they have out on both sides and in this hand they would make a straight so I would consider that a possible. A straight draw is high on my list of possible hands at this point along with a set. Flushes are discounted as it's a rainbow flop.

I'd never call here. If you make a good raise you would soon know where you stand but be prepared to fold to any re raise.

Had this been a 1 or 2$ SNG I would go for it but at 10$ there are less fish about.

Be instresting to see what others think and what actually happened.

Regards
Alan

[ND1991]

I also went with the "it is early" theory and figured there was no reason to get reckless. I laid it down.

What if you knew that your two opponents were holding:

6h 8d and Qc 7c ????

Yes you read that right, a raise and a call with those two hands.

[Alnoble]

The call I can understand as he has an up and down straight draw which is reasonable but not the other one.

What came on the turn and river ?. Would you have won ?

Regards
Alan

[ND1991]

Leaving Dodge was the right thing to do!

PokerStars Game #33868533010: Tournament #202574109, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/10/10 14:15:59 ET
Table '202574109 4' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: ND1991 (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: Markmax33 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: DutchRemco (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: gtx1978 (1460 in chips)
Seat 5: morit23 (1830 in chips)
Seat 6: MR. KY (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: Czar_of_TX (1470 in chips)
Seat 8: tinglemeoff (1420 in chips)
Seat 9: magleon1976 (1470 in chips)
magleon1976: posts small blind 10
ND1991: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ND1991 [4s 5s]
Markmax33: folds
DutchRemco: folds
gtx1978: calls 20
morit23: folds
MR. KY: folds
Czar_of_TX: folds
tinglemeoff: raises 60 to 80
magleon1976: calls 70
ND1991: calls 60
gtx1978: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [6c 5h 4d]
magleon1976: checks
ND1991: checks
gtx1978: bets 260
tinglemeoff: folds
magleon1976: calls 260
ND1991: folds
*** TURN *** [6c 5h 4d] [6s]
magleon1976: checks
gtx1978: bets 1120 and is all-in
magleon1976: calls 1120
*** RIVER *** [6c 5h 4d 6s] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
magleon1976: shows [6h 8d] (a full house, Sixes full of Eights)
gtx1978: shows [Qc 7c] (a straight, Four to Eight)
magleon1976 collected 3080 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3080 | Rake 0
Board [6c 5h 4d 6s 8h]
Seat 1: ND1991 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Markmax33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DutchRemco folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: gtx1978 showed [Qc 7c] and lost with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 5: morit23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MR. KY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Czar_of_TX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tinglemeoff (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: magleon1976 (small blind) showed [6h 8d] and won (3080) with a full house, Sixes full of Eights

[rgchan]

Wow now that looks like the Pokerstars hands i know and hate. lol Since it was so early(starting Blinds) it,s very possible to see hands like 6-8 and lower connected cards trying to hit something like you did.You were ahead as I suspected after the flop.If some-one flopped the str8 i think they would have bet more.So its str8 chasers to PUSH out or get out yourself.I agree with the , its early stragedy.If the blinds were larger I,d be more comfortable with the hand.
Rg

[Ramster]

You've called out of position with bad cards and hit the flop
If that hand isnt big enough to fire at and see where you stand with so many still in the pot i dont think calling in the first place is such a good idea