Nuts

[ennotserp]

Forgetting about how I played this hand pre-flop I would like to know how you would play this situation on the turn. However, if you do offer pre-flop suggestions, after reviewing the hand, I have my answer ready.

Having KJs on the button with 1500 chips, there are 5 limpers pre-flop, and 5 checks on the flop of A-4-T rainbow.
The turn shows Q, giving me the nut straight. One player in middle position bets 5xBB (300 chips) and it is up to you.
A flush draw shows on the board.

What would you do, feeling that the player who bet (with 2500 chips) is a reasonably tight player?
a) fold - if you do you would fail the test - lol.
b) call the 300 bet.
c) raise the bet(not all-in) and by how much.
d) raise all-in.

[Ramster]

do you have the flush draw ?

[Alnoble]

The choice is all in and take the hand as he folds his flush draw. If he is a tight player he shouldn't call you or call and wait for the river and have to make a big decision if the flush comes.

If it's amicro stake tournement I'm all in and take the chips already in the pot if I can. I hate to slow play these as you leave yourself open to a suck out.

In a higher stack one I would possibly just raise a further 300 and if he calls watch for the flush on the river.

[hojediade]

Hey gang,

I think we're missing infos about the hand such as the size of the pot after the bet from the middle position player, your stack size and level of blinds and even format would give us more to answer you properly.
Anyway the right bet here should probably push him out of the hand, meaning not offering him the odds to call if you fear the flush draw.

[ennotserp]

The only information missing is - a NLHE tourney about 1/2 hr into play, I didn't have the flush draw, and there was also the possibility of a chopped pot with a straight draw.
The blinds were 30-60 and the pot size after the bet made by the mid-position player was 600 chips, which can be determined from the information given (ie 5 limpers and 5 x BB). The stack sizes were also given, so the pot odds can be calculated.

[Alnoble]

You have enough chips to just call the 300 and wait to see the river to see if a flush hits but thinking about it I'd probally go for a raise of 600 which still leaves me options on the river if I get a call

If the flush hits I'm out of there and still have enough chips to get back or if it misses I'm all in to double up. if he folds on the river at least I got more chips out of him which I might not of done with an all in on the turn.

[kingmotan]

Yea a call would be the normal play even though he will probably hit his flush on the river
Also lol at 5 limpers/ 5 checks. Must have been a good ol' freeroll.

Oh and if the guy bet the flush Draw in a 5 way pot he is a MORON.

[hojediade]

I would probably over bet the pot --> 900, hoping he has a already a hand to call that raise, like trips, or you'll probably pick-up the pot without any more action if he was drawing.

[Ramster]

Calling here is far too weak with 3 still to act after you, you are pricing in anyone with a draw and you wanna be making them pay to draw

I like hoje's thinking here of a 900 bet if you think you can take the pot down there and then but can you really fold if anyone comes over the top with odds of at least 4/1

Personally i wouldnt have got myself in this position as i wouldnt have been calling on the button but i wanna be the one showing strength here so i'm pushing and if i'm beat so be it

[rgchan]

Everyone is assuming the 300 Raiser is on a Flush Draw ?? There had been no betting in the Pot so I,m thinking more likely he hit Q,s and thinks there good because no-one bet/represented the ACE or he could be BLUFFING.Actually I,m putting the raiser on K-Q or Q-9 my guess.I would be more afraid of the limpers still behind you who may have a garbage flush draw. All in you take them out and take down the Pot. Seems early in the game and I would like to get as much from the Hand as I can.So I might raise 600. If they pay 900 and miss the flop you have made the most out of your hand and have a nice stack. Just unlucky if they hit the flush but worth trying to entice them into the Pot imo.
What did the Raiser have ,, Q,s ??
Rg