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    Another hand in the $0.05/$0.10. I like everything about this hand except the river and the otucome :-) This is poker in nutshell. I thought I played this fairly well. How would you have played it different? I did think I had the best hand through the turn, but maybe I did not bet enough?

    Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players

    UTG+1: $10.83
    UTG+2: $26.46
    MP1: $10
    MP2: $10.21
    CO: $10.97
    Hero (BTN): $8.94
    SB: $3.88
    BB: $13.68
    UTG: $7.60
    Pre-Flop: Q K dealt to Hero (BTN)
    2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB folds
    Flop: ($1) Q K 9 (3 Players)
    SB checks, UTG+2 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.90, SB folds, UTG+2 calls $1.60
    Turn: ($4.80) 8 (2 Players)
    UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $6.74 and is All-In, UTG+2 calls $6.74
    River: ($18.28) A (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
    Last edited by ND1991; 03-09-2010 at 03:12 PM.

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    I love looking at different hands but could you use a converter and leave out the result so we could discuss the hands.

    When DWexLer raises to $1 I would of probably folded pre flop.I would only have A high with a low kicker(suited I know).

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    Absolutely willing to leave out result. Could you please help me with the converter part? Where is a good one and how do they work? Thanks!

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    Found one!

    Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players

    UTG+1: $10.83
    UTG+2: $26.46
    MP1: $10
    MP2: $10.21
    CO: $10.97
    Hero (BTN): $8.94
    SB: $3.88
    BB: $13.68
    UTG: $7.60
    Pre-Flop: Q K dealt to Hero (BTN)
    2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB folds
    Flop: ($1) Q K 9 (3 Players)
    SB checks, UTG+2 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.90, SB folds, UTG+2 calls $1.60
    Turn: ($4.80) 8 (2 Players)
    UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $6.74 and is All-In, UTG+2 calls $6.74
    River: ($18.28) A (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

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    You've changed the hand from the first post and where did you get your convertor

    Alarm bells should be ringing on this hand when the UTG2 calls your re raise. I suspect 10 J for the flopped straight or even a big pair. This is re enforced when he calls your all in.

    I'd have tried to check this down after the flop. I bet you lost to a straight.
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    Tried a few hand history converters, not sure which one this was. I was excited when I saw output. If I switched hands it was unitentional, and it is the hand I wanted now.

    I think Poker Hand History HH Converter: Full Tilt Poker,PokerStars,PartyPoker seems to be pretty good.

    And Villian called with AA down at turn.

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    The flop should have set the alarm bells ringing. There is a difference between a flush or straight draw vs a possible flush or straight. Think you maybe should have checked it down, but even after the raise on the flop, the bells would be ringing louder. Agree with Alnoble.
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    Big pair then. I found the convertor, was hoping for one you could download as a client.

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    personally would of folded pre-flop i want more value than 1 raiser.

    Having said that like previous comments i would have been worried about 10 J once involved in the hand. I would also say more likely than that is he has ak or even a q but i would not think a player is dumb enough to not know his top pair is beat as in my opinion u could very easily call ur hand as KQ at worst or set or str8 no way can he think he has u beat with ak. Once u reraised and he called i would have thought good chance 10 j and i would not of led out into the pot after that point......altho this clearly would have been worse in this situation than how u played it as u got maximum value just unl to get outdrawn.

    but its impossible to read ur opponents hand where he will play a pair the same as he should play the nuts.

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    I definitely appreciate the feedback.

    I wish I could say I had a great read and knew he did not have JT but that would be a lie.

    His call on the re-raise on the flop confused me a little. My first thought was did he hit a set? I guess I figured he would 3-bet there with the straight, but after this discussion, I see now why that made no sense at all.

    I pushed on turn because I did not have him on the straight for all the wrong reasons. His call with AA is even more perplexing. Shouldn't he have put me on the straight possibly? I guess some people cannot lay down AA.

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