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    Default Mid Level $10 sng, 6 left...

    This was either a $5 or $10 9plyr. SNG.(I forget which).

    6 players left, blinds at 50/100

    Some player reads (even players not in the hand as it might alter decision).

    Cheri F - < terrible loose fishy player... gets it in real bad (ie. A-rag).. is a HUGE spewer... (ez to grab chips from in future.. 'if' we have a future
    ICM Yklee - < sng reg., tons of games played, so will obv be familiar with ICM & gd shov/fold play

    FluffQX - had been fairly tight.. had been open-shipping at 50/100 previously w 17-20bb stack

    HairStars < newbie player,.. plays bad (expecting them to flat my raise here in BB a good % of the time & am planning on getting it in with them on most flops (almost all flops)

    With 22.+ bb's.. I raise OTB with 10-10.. SB shoves 21bb's

    Now what?.........
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    Will post my thoughts for calling & thoughts for folding (after a few responses... hopefully a few responses?).
    Yah.... yah.. I'll also post the results ('if' there are any, lol).
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    Given your reads, and your 3X blind raise (Hopefully I saw all that right, couldnt find my magnifying glass), I'd probably call, thinking he's trying to steal, maybe A 9, something like that. Though maybe not worth risk at that point in tourney. Of course, I would of raised more or pushed myself, if I raise to 300 it would only be to entice a reraise that I was planning on calling. That just me. Can't wait to see your read and actual outcome (if there is one).

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    In the short way, you mention that Villain is been open-shipping before, but also that is fairly tight, you have also a fishy bigstack there that could feed you later, 19bb left, so i fold.

    But, seeing more ahead you don´t mention if shorstack fold or call before you, if he call more reason to fold for one side, you could wait and see if have 1 player less, but that will mean in next hands you will have now the ICM-regular guy in the bb when you get the button wich will make things harder, for the other side also is tempting to call if shorstack also call first, if you win will be up to 5000, but not sure if sb just think you are raising because position or he don´t care because have a strong hand.

    with 19bb i dont think like to call here, and if see sb doing this before i think some times will only call (not raise) if want to play post flop versus shorstack (this way if sb push you could trap him when have a big hand), or only raise if you already know will go all the way. in this specific hand i think will open-shove in your position instead of raise, that take out sb out of play (you mention he is tight) unless he really have a big hand (wich some times will mean a risk on your part), and if shorstack decide to call you, probably you will be ahead, if get beat still will have 11bb, but open raising when already see sb shoving before means you can be trowing chips away unless you are ok to go all the way, but also you mention expect bb flat call your raise here, more reason to not raise and just open shove or just call, if he flat call the raise and face cards come in flop you will be in a top spot there, but if only call could have sb there too, but if make trips will be a great way to take all chips from both.

    I think will depend also how frecuently im getting hands, and in how much time blinds will be up, if blinds go up in a couple minutes mean that you will be down to 9bb soon, if hands don´t come too often then probably will make me take the risk, but generally will fold.

    Too many ways of played.

    Hopely you chose the best and not get unlucky.

    side note: why you make pict smallers?, is really hard to see anything that way, when you atach images there is no need to make pict small.
    Last edited by Logan; 08-24-2010 at 01:45 AM.

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    The player in the SB has 'never' shipped allin over 'my' raise before.. but he has shipped before over some limpers & also before over a minraise.
    I also have had a tight image.

    The goal here was a) get it allin vs. BB,...

    I think 22bb's is too big of a stack to just open push here (it'd obviously be fine if it were just 9 effective bb's (with the BB) but not vs. the other med. stack if he woke up with a monster).

    these ^ just a couple thoughts during the hand (will write more later).
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    Hope you plan on finishing this thread. After further review, I think I'd fold. Reading your last post, plus you still would have plenty to continue. Probably best case senario is you're in a coin flip, unless my original guess was right (A 9 or worse). Even so, Ace rag seems to hit a lot in this situaltion online (I know you're not a conspiracy person, but I am).

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    FOLD....u have plenty of chips back IF this guy has made this move without having at least 2 overcards i would be suprised as he dont need to be making a move PLUS he knows (or i would like to think) that BB will call a very wide range of hands with his stack so theoretically he should not be making a MOVE here.

    i would say he has either ak / jj / mayb even KK but i would go for QQ personally


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    Now what?.........
    wait for the BB to act is what I would do (not sure if its been mentioned¿)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assistanc3 View Post
    wait for the BB to act is what I would do (not sure if its been mentioned¿)
    lol,.. very funny.
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    Y wait for big blind ? my decision would be made regardless of what he has ..if i think i have big enough advantage over small blind i aint bothered about big blind same goes if i think small blind has me beaten i aint interested in Big Blind.

    interested to know how this influences ur decision

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