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    Default WWYD 88 11 players left in 27man SNG

    What Would You Do?

    $5-27plyr. SNG on Fulltilt.
    11 players left, close to final table bubble, Top5 paid. This is the stage of the game where we must up our aggression, look for good spots to steal &/or resteal.
    Blinds are at 100/200

    Reads on other players:
    Okay I don't recall much about them as I was on many tables at the time (if I'd taken a screenshot I'd be able to recall more).

    Serial-Caller - they were fairly aggressive, not the greatest results

    HaveFayth - new player, some really unorthodox play in early & mid-levels, probably playing too many hands & doing stuff like slowplaying on wetboards, lots of flatcalling pre, etc.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #25039849351: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (193936758), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 01:30:21 ET - 2010/10/27
    Seat 3: Serial-Caller (2,590)
    Seat 4: Texassparkey (2,665)
    Seat 5: HaveFayth (4,005)
    Seat 6: DeepchapChopra (3,560)
    Seat 7: astys7 (1,415)
    DeepchapChopra posts the small blind of 100
    astys7 posts the big blind of 200
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DeepchapChopra [8h 8c]
    Serial-Caller raises to 400
    Texassparkey folds
    HaveFayth calls 400
    DeepchapChopra...... ???

    Sitting on 17.5bb's with a tight image... what would you do here in this spot? (& why?).
    I'll add my two cents after a bit.
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    My concern would be the BB. If I was pretty certain he would either fold or just call, I'd call hoping to hit the set. It's 300 more which leaves you still with just over 10 blinds, not much better if you fold, one extra blind. I believe it's 7-1 to flop a set ( maybe that's to it the set with all 5 board cards but I thought that was 5-1) So if you hit the flop, I think you'll get more than 2100 (which would be 7X what it would cost you to see the flop). At this pt. in tourney, there are other important things to worry about than pot odds, but like I said, as long as you're confident you can see the flop for 300, you can fold if you miss and still be in relatively the same position. That's WIWD. Of course my roi on FT is far from +88.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjek View Post
    My concern would be the BB. If I was pretty certain he would either fold or just call, I'd call hoping to hit the set.
    Just curious - why are we concerned with the BB? And, do you think the BB would ever do anything but shove or fold? If so, why?
    sidenote - it's 8to1 to flop a set. Typically we're looking for 15to1 odds to set mine (but of course, 'it depends', lol).

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    Maybe I'm not the best player and maybe this is a stupid play, but if I'm BB and someone min raises with 2 callers, I'm getting 8 to 1 on a call, guess I shoulda looked at what BB's stack was before I started writing this, but unless I'm really SS'd, I'm going to call with any kind of drawing hand. I know you think a min raise is always a strong hand trying to get a raise, but I've seen weaker drawing hands min raise also, maybe I'm not playing the compeitiion level you are. Also, BB might be thinking min equals strength so would be afraid to shove unless really strong, idk. Anyway, I see BB's calling small raises all the time with drawing hand, hoping to get lucky with flop and steal the pot. But a fold would work just as well. I don't see why you'd need 15 to 1 when you flop a set 8 to 1. A 2-3000 pot would put you in pretty good position if you ask me and risking 300 more chips is worth it for me, and there's a good chance you'd get a lot more.

    Ok, I looked at BB's stack, guess a call is unlikely there, I'd probably be concerned about a shove, depending how he's been playing. Some players don't care how low their stack gets, they're not shoving w/o a hand. 5 blinds isn't much to work with though.
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    out of interest why do you ask the question...i only ask as to understand what your dilemma was here

    was it

    A. You were worried about calling and then BB raising
    B. You were considering pushing allin but was worried of bigger hands.
    C. You did not want to call 300 chips anyway.


    In my opinion theres only on thing to do which is call and unless you hit a set or flop drops 5 6 7 dont put another chip in the pot.


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    Wasn't a dilemma. Posted out of interest... wanting to generate discussion... wanting to hear "what would you do.. & why?"
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    I'm for raising here probally to 800 maybe 1000. Nobody has enough chips at these blind levels to sit back. with a moderate pair. I'm looking to take it down pre flop 800 + ante's nice addition to stack. It will mean a push on the flop if called.

    If this was a 4KP game I'd probally fold unless I had position don't get to many min raises with us.
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