Did I do anything right after preflop except win aka suckout

[Dan Abnormal]

Hand#2657014135001219 - Rome 14135 -- $0.02/$0.04 NL Hold'em -- 2011/07/15 - 15:37:10
Seat 1: Boge***1 ($6.66 in chips) DEALER
Seat 2: huck***2 ($4.04 in chips)
Seat 3: eugeneseldom ($4.42 in chips)
Seat 4: yyou***4 ($4.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Craz***5 ($4 in chips)
Seat 7: pAtr***7 ($3.12 in chips)
Seat 8: kald***8 ($18.42 in chips)
Seat 9: bava***9 ($0.92 in chips)
Seat 10: luck***10 ($4.01 in chips)
huck***2: posts small blind $0.02
eugeneseldom: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to eugeneseldom [Td,Ts]
yyou***4: folds
pAtr***7: calls $0.04
kald***8: folds
bava***9: folds
luck***10: folds
Boge***1: raises to $0.16
huck***2: folds
eugeneseldom: raises to $0.54
pAtr***7: folds
Boge***1: calls $0.38
*** FLOP *** [9d,Qc,7d]
eugeneseldom: checks
Boge***1: bets $0.67
eugeneseldom: raises to $1.34
Boge***1: raises to $4.15
eugeneseldom: is all in 2.5400
Boge***1: returns uncalled bet $0.27
Boge***1: shows [9c 9h]
eugeneseldom: shows [Td Ts]
*** TURN *** [8h]
*** RIVER *** [Jc]
***SHOW DOWN***
eugeneseldom: wins $8.31 with Straight, Queen high

Did I do anything right here except win, I was stronger preflop and pushed it
DUde called my raise preflop ok must be pretty strong NOTES - DUDE plays mainly PP 88 and higher
I accounted for all raises preflop he had to know I was pretty strong but who knows what notes people have me EASY MONEY LOL
Missed FLOP and dude raises me .67 2 thoughts here, if he calls me probably on Q only if he re-raises me - must be trips or 2 pair (but doubtful on my notes of the dude well maybe Q9 but I thought re-raise trips so I push it up and he all in himself so Im thinking I got a 34% (Y/N) to double my buy in ($4) said fuck it lets gamble. (SO RIGHT HERE STOP THE HAND WHAT IS EVERYONE DOING POST FLOP HERE THAT ANAYSIS, are we folding to the raise or we just calling his raise or we gonna bet first with PP and one over that is trouble JUST WANT TO SEE EVERYONES MIND HERE)

Rest is history the poker gods were happy with me on this hand thankfully

[Peteyweestro]

Sorry Dan, i'm not one to read these hand histories nor give advice on playing hands really, but as long as you won i say celebrate !!!

[Dan Abnormal]

AHHH PETEY is still alive, what up dude. Last night wasnt too kind on the cash side of things dude took $2.90 from me AT vs AK post flop like a dumbass pushed all in FLOP A72 knew the minute I was called I was beat GOTTA STOP DOING THESE STUPID MOney moves

On The MTT side, cashed more on cake RTR thing, played 2 bounty MTTs on carbon and tripled my money on bounties but really got greedy the 2nd game as I lost focus of the prize for the bounty, I had worked myself up to 11th with 70 folks left TOP 30 pay out 290 folks and instead of focusing on WINNING I focused on bounties and guess what 30 minutes later someone collecting my $1

GOt into a big argument with some dude on the first bounty, YA know when a bounty is on the line for a few hundred chips, IM in regardless of my holding unless they just have no hope, this fucker tells me to learn how to play poker (SEE I GOT THE BOUNTY) I told him I should beat his ass for trying to steal my bounty from there I was zinging this dude (YEP another CARBON pro playing a $2 bounty I love it) (I didnt say I was a pro) (Well ya fucking think ya can tell everyone how to play even though ya lose every hand youre in) once he busted out ( I told him to go cry to his wife now and shut the fuck up (YOU KNOW FOR ALL THE CESORING ON CARBON CHAT FUCK came across clean and untouched) 4 people at the table thumbs up to me

I know why ya telling us this rob (cause I just felt like posting something)

[Poker Orifice]

Why are we 're-raising' this guy's raise preflop OOP (out of position)? Do we have a plan? {btw, once we've re-raised OOP, aren't we always continuing to take initiative in the hand... ie. lead flop?}
What was our 'plan'?

As played, once this guy re-raises me over my check-raise here on the flop (typically the 'check-raise' here OOP might be something a player would do with AA/KK vs. an aggro player.. once he plays back at you.. this is an easy fold (we beat nothing!)

[Dan Abnormal]

PO was he better preflop He was 80% behind me Preflop and 100% ahead post flop

ARE YOU FOLDING TT PREFLOP to a raise OOP and remember Ive seen your play in certain games and you would of push all in from what Ive seen

DUDE YOU AINT DROPPING TT so come on now. Lets talk post flop though

SO Im suppose to put him on premiums which is 100% contradicts the advice from others on my hand

PLUS IF HE WAS AA KK then he aint looking to make money off his hand HE WAS PROTECTING a LOWER PP as I WAS How much protection does AA or KK come on

PLUs I raised and call re-raise preflop OOP why isnt he putting me on AA KK instead of re-raising me That goes both ways he IP and Im raising, and then calling his re-raise, if I did that should I just pushed all in there and would that have folded YOU or HIM NAH IT WOULD NOT

[Poker Orifice]

PO was he better preflop He was 80% behind me Preflop and 100% ahead post flop

ARE YOU FOLDING TT PREFLOP to a raise OOP and remember Ive seen your play in certain games and you would of push all in from what Ive seen
I never said 'fold', I 'asked' > why are we 3betting this guy's raise out of position... what's our plan?!?!
"you would push allin from what I've seen" < DanAbs, are you drinking? I would NEVER shove allin here w TT 150bb's deep. This isn't a tournament where there's antes in play, blinds adding a good % to the size of the pot, & stacks more along the lines of 15-25,30bb's deep. It is just sooooooooo much of a different scenario that there is no way you can possibly compare the two. (ie. early levels of an MTT where we're 150bb's deep (if we're even that deep ever....some bigger MTT's yes.. but not many of the smaller buyin ones), I would NEVER 3-bet this guy even in position with TT. (same in this spot... 3-betting typically gets me to fold out hands I'm ahead of & can extract value from, or gets me 4bet against where I won't be deep enough to flat (to set-mine) so I'll basically just be donating to villain.
DUDE YOU AINT DROPPING TT so come on now. Lets talk post flop though
No,... I 'ain't' dropping it in this spot but doubt I'm 3betting him here either. Difficult for me to say what I'd do postflop because I've only 'called' pre.. & not 3bet.

SO Im suppose to put him on premiums which is 100% contradicts the advice from others on my hand
You're completely misinterpretting what I've said in my post.
PLUS IF HE WAS AA KK then he aint looking to make money off his hand HE WAS PROTECTING a LOWER PP as I WAS How much protection does AA or KK come on
I think you're continually getting Tournament play & deepstack cash game play mixed up imo. What do you mean 'he was protecting a lower pp?' no he wasn't (imo), he was calling a 3bet here from you while in position with both of you just 'barely' deep enough to set-mine with implied odds. He hits his set in position... & bingo.. it was worth putting in the extra preflop (vs. some villains it might not be.. cuz you typically want effective stack sizes to be 20x the size of the bet.. cuz you're only going to flop a set 1/8 times & then chances that villain will stack off to you when you do flop the set isn't that great either.... although more likely vs. some villains than others.. .ie. ones who'll get in 100+bb's with TPTK hands & overprs.
PLUs I raised and call re-raise preflop OOP why isnt he putting me on AA KK instead of re-raising me That goes both ways he IP and Im raising, and then calling his re-raise, if I did that should I just pushed all in there and would that have folded YOU or HIM NAH IT WOULD NOT

Where did he re-raise you preflop? He raised a limper,.. you re-raised him ... & he 'called'. Maybe he's actually hoping you have AA or KK here!!!! Because then when (or if) he does flop his set he knows he'll take your entire stack (which is very likely the reason he does make the call pre... even though it's a close call on whether he's getting the implied odds to do so).

[Poker Orifice]

I just pushed all in there and would that have folded YOU or HIM NAH IT WOULD NOT

Of course it would've had him fold it there preflop if you'd just shoved pre (in a tournament if you were say 15-24bb's deep, I would 100% for sure shove allin pre there.... but not here.. NEVER.. if I do I'm only going to win the min. or lose the max. (uless he thinks I'm nuts & am 3betting allin 120+bb's deep with AK??).

So you're saying I wouldn't have folded it pre if I was him & you had just gone & re-raised allin? What?!?!??! Of course I'd fold.
...umm.. WoW!

[Poker Orifice]

fwiw, I'd probably
c/C flop
c/C trn
& re-evaluate river.. depending upon how big villain bets.

Sometimes losing the least (or at least not the 'most') = winning.

[Dan Abnormal]

PO your my boy but NO YOU WOULDNT FOLD and this dude was protecting his 9's NO WAY AROUND IT

but would you expand this (MEANING explain this in laymens term cause ya know im listening ) remember when I express my opinion and thought process, I aint slamming Im just going from past experience cause THIS SPONGE IS SOAKING IT ALL up and I guess Im mixing everything up Deep stack cash and MTT

he was calling a 3bet here from you while in position with both of you just 'barely' deep enough to set-mine with implied odds

THe implied odds part (lay it out ofr me)


ALso PO check out my other thread ANALYSIS FUN FUN FUN I have 3 hands there

also gotta re-read your whole post as Im spent today and will ask ya anything I dont get

[Poker Orifice]

PO your my boy but NO YOU WOULDNT FOLD and this dude was protecting his 9's NO WAY AROUND IT

Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying here ^

Please tell me what you mean by saying that "this dude was protecting his 9's NO WAY AROUND IT" (< how was he 'protecting his 9s'???? He raised 4x over a limper (good raise imo) & then flatted your SB 3bet in position, likely with intentions of set-mining... (although he doesn't really have implied odds... 'although' if he knows villain will stack off if he actually hits his set.. then it's not terrible).
Where was he 'protecting'? To me it looked like he was isolating a limper with 99 in pos., got 3bet by SB & decided to make the call... w/o really havin' implied odds to do so. (typically/favourably hoping for 'effective' stacks to be at least 15x as deep as the bet size... in MTT you're typically looking for 20x, although some cases could warrant having less than this (the times you feel villain is more likely to stack off with TPTK or overpr's.).

Next question:
How do you figure > "No way PO you would not fold" You're saying I wouldn't fold 99 here if SB re-raised allin preflop for 100bb's? What range of hands would I possibly put SB on to think I'd always be calling off 100bb's pre here? (hint > it'd have to be a HUGE Spazz in the SB... & would've needed to see them 3bai with weird stuff prior (A6s+, any pr's, etc.... not very likely).

While playing cash tables there's often the oppurtunity to get your stack in good (postflop... often by sizing bets appropriately on each street so you're shoving river with ~3/4 - pot sized bet left in stack < this is often the goal with monsters anyways). There's really no need to gamble it up pre for stacks (100bb+) with a mid pr.
As far as what I'm folding here pre (if I were in 99 guy's shoes & SB 3bets allin).. 'it depends'.. the 'allin' shove for starters would be pretty weird. I'm probably not calling without QQ+, AKo+ (but 'it depends'). Generally avoiding spots like this... unless reads tell me otherwise (ie. player shoving is a nutjob)